Jesus Camp

[Sunrunner]

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/

Okay. I saw this on another board here, and I just thought this was very interesting.

Can someone say yikes... interesting that we've been talking about the Sunday Law..

Watch the trailer and browse around the website. This is basically training Christian youth to have a loud voice about the future of politics...

I got chills when the woman and all of the children were screaming "This means war! This means war!"

 

[Telaquapacky]

I looked at the trailer, and what really stood out to me was that the methods they are using to indoctrinate the children aren't the kind that would give them a personal relationship with Christ, but a regimented, brainwashed, cultic kind of following, where the kids parrot rhetoric they've heard and are moved by intense mob pressure to conform and espouse unquestioning loyalty and obedience to their leaders. Whatever the leader says will be accepted as the word of God.

I have noticed in American culture, and in the education and culturizing of youth, a definite move away from critical, creative, autonomous, nuanced and informed reasoning once prized by my generation, to a sort of "sound bite," "don't make me think, just figure it out for me," black and white, intellectually lazy, concrete thinking. One of the failures of education nowadays is the down-funding of the public school system so that liberal arts, history, music, art, literature, political science instruction are suffering, while they struggle to help kids pass robotic kinds of tasks like reading and math.

It is as if a generation of susceptible, hypnotizable, mindless automatons is being raised for some nefarious purpose with an outwardly holy appearance. It reminds me of the Hitler Youth.

2 Cor 10:3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does.
2 Cor 10:4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.

I think Christians who shout, "This means war!" will one day sadly discover first hand how easy it is to find ones self on the wrong side.

 

[Sunrunner]

Yep..

And you know. It is scares me to think that I am going to be living with this generation.

 

[Telaquapacky]

Yep..

And you know. It is scares me to think that I am going to be living with this generation.

The one consolation for me is that they probably won't be changing my bed pan in the nursing home. Ha ha!

You know, sunrunner, You have a great potential that I don't really have because of age differences, to be an influence to this generation. There are great people in every generation, as you probably are an example, and I really feel proud of young people who have their heads on straight.

 

[Sunrunner]

Thank you very much.

I'm honored by your words.

 

[Dasdream]

You know, I don't really care what religion anyone is from, the Bible pretty much explains everything. How can they chant "This means war" if the Bible cleary disagrees with war? I just don't get it sometimes, but lke a wise man once said Some people tend to mold God into what we want him to be instead of who he is" some of us do the same with the Bible, they only read what they agree with and don't read what they should really read.

 

[Telaquapacky]

You know, I don't really care what religion anyone is from, the Bible pretty much explains everything. How can they chant "This means war" if the Bible cleary disagrees with war? I just don't get it sometimes, but lke a wise man once said Some people tend to mold God into what we want him to be instead of who he is" some of us do the same with the Bible, they only read what they agree with and don't read what they should really read.

Das, you're so right both that the Bible explains itself, and that people nevertheless read whatever they want into it. But when you consider the warlike mentality, and think they could not find any Biblical excuse for it, look at Numbers chapter 31. We need to get clear in our heads why it is that there was a time once when God did send His people to war, and why this is not that time.

I believe that in the days of the establishment of Israel, God ordered them to fight against the nations around them., not to force people to accept His truth, but because the survival of the Truth was threatened. The nations around them had already rejected the Truth, and would have destroyed or corrupted the bearers of the Truth, including the holy line from which our Savior in His humanity descended.

But now we live in the last days, our Savior has been born, the Truth has been fully revealed, and every soul has the opportunity to accept or reject it. Rather than giving supernatural victory to the bearers of Truth as He did in the age when Truth was emerging and needed to be nurtured and protected, God is now allowing the bearers of Truth to suffer defeat and persecution. When the rebellion against Truth has reached it's climax and the people with the Truth are nearly wiped off the earth, then God will intervene.

We're looking for the final victory to be a God thing, and not a man-political thing.

 

[woobadooba]

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/

Okay. I saw this on another board here, and I just thought this was very interesting.

Can someone say yikes... interesting that we've been talking about the Sunday Law..

Watch the trailer and browse around the website. This is basically training Christian youth to have a loud voice about the future of politics...

I got chills when the woman and all of the children were screaming "This means war! This means war!"

This movement is not of God. The part about taking America back is totally unBiblical. It's not God's purpose to reform America, but to sanctify the church, so that it may be ready for Jesus' soon appearing.

This message reminds of of someone in the Prophetic Forum who is advocating the view that God is raising up an army of prophets to remove the tares from the church.

It's amazing how so many have come to believe that it's
their purpose to purify the world when that work belongs solely to God.

 

[zhilan]

What other board was it on? I wonder what the reactions of this movie is by other members of CF. I found the clip rather disturbing...

 

[Sunrunner]

I found it in the Messianic Judaism board.

 

[Jon0388g]

What struck me is Bible Camp was in Devil's Lake............


All I'm saying is

And indeed

 

[woobadooba]

What struck me is Bible Camp was in Devil's Lake............


All I'm saying is

And indeed

The whole thing is tragic when you think about it, but its location is quite ironic...