Jerusalem Third Temple, Ezekiel Temple and putting carbon into the soil.

[Robban]

Yes.... i do agree that hell is a kingdom of Shame..... and fear....... and lying...... and greed...... and hatred....... and the only thing that Satan can use to keep his demons from fighting each other continually is to get them to have a greater hatred for Jews and Christians and anybody else who knows the Creator........

I do not believe in blaming the satan for that he is not guilty of.
To use the NT,
James 1:14-16

 

[DennisTate]

I do not believe in blaming the satan for that he is not guilty of.
To use the NT,
James 1:14-16

Good point....... and for all I know his motives might even be somewhat like those of Stanley Milgram Ph. D?


Milgram experiment - Wikipedia

The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants, men from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner." These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.[2]

The experiment found, unexpectedly, that a very high proportion of men would fully obey the instructions, albeit reluctantly. Milgram first described his research in a 1963 article in the Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology[1] and later discussed his findings in greater depth in his 1974 book, Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View.[3]

The experiments began in July 1961, in the basement of Linsly-Chittenden Hall at Yale University,[4] three months after the start of the trial of German Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem. Milgram devised his psychological study to answer the popular contemporary question: "Could it be that Eichmann and his million accomplices in the Holocaust were just following orders? Could we call them all accomplices?"[5] The experiment was repeated many times around the globe, with fairly consistent results.

A near death experiencer was shown that the original fall began as jealousy...... but over time..... it is impossible for a human like me to guess what the intentions are these days????

His goal is to "steal, kill and destroy" but the Why for all this.... could be another question altogether.

 

[Rick Otto]

On the other hand.... some near death experiencers have been given
very positive visions for the next several centuries that also sure seem to fit with many predictions in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets so........
I like to keep my mind open as to how all of this will work out?


Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

Check this NDE That Captain Janeway had:

 

[DennisTate]

Check this NDE That Captain Janeway had:

Impressive... thank you for this!

 

[Rick Otto]

Impressive... thank you for this!

Welcome.
Yeah, it's interesting, and a little confounding as well. It's basically gnostic sourced info, but it may have some truth in it, like all Hermetic alchemy stuff.
So now I'm forced to examine the contentions between Gnosticism & classic gospel storylines. I'm focusing on origins because that's where foundations are laid - genesis.
I need to understand the story of "Sophia" to weed out & isolate the lies from the truth.
The stories express the philosophical/theological premises they are built on.
I've been over it several times, but just at a glance.

 

[Rick Otto]

Impressive... thank you for this!

Welcome.
Yeah, it's interesting, and a little confounding as well. It's basically gnostic sourced info, but it may have some truth in it, like all Hermetic alchemy stuff.
So now I'm forced to examine the contentions between Gnosticism & classic gospel storylines. I'm focusing on origins because that's where foundations are laid - genesis.
I need to understand the story of "Sophia" to weed out & isolate the lies from the truth.
The stories express the philosophical/theological premises they are built on.
I've been over it several times, but just at a glance, so I've got at least some familiarity with the subject.