James 5:16

[andrewclements]

For some of you guys who know a little of New Testament Greek could you give me a literal translation of James 5:16b? I was thinking it should probably read, "The prayer of a righteous man prevails much in its inworking." What you think?

 

[HypnoToad]

"Literally" it's "very strong (is the) petition of one righteous being made effective".

As for a more dynamically-equivalent reading, I would think "the prayer of the righteous is very strong, it is effective".

 

[revrobor]

I leave the Greek stuff up to others. According to the Contemporary English Version that part of James 5:16 reads: "The prayer of an innocent person is powerful, and it can help a lot."

 

[dignitized]

Youngs literal reads thus: Jam 5:16 Be confessing to one another the trespasses, and be praying for one another, that ye may be healed; very strong is a working supplication of a righteous man;

The Literal transltion of the Holy Bible reads:Jam 5:16 Confess to one another the deviations from the Law, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. Very strong is a righteous petition, being made effective.

The Analytical- Literal translation reads: Jam 5:16 You* yourselves be confessing your transgressions to one another, and be praying for one another, in order that you* shall be healed [or, restored]. [The] petition of a righteous [person] itself has very powerful [or, many supernatural] effects.

You may consider asking this question in the Orthodox forum. after all, many there speak greek

 

[justified]

Its dangerous to ask orthodox-greek readers to translate biblical greek. They read into it sometimes.

 

[SnowBird77]

Prayer is beginning to sound like it is a pill. That is not what it is.

 

[dignitized]

Its dangerous to ask orthodox-greek readers to translate biblical greek. They read into it sometimes.

OH okay . . . .

What you mean is that when they read it - they don't come to the same conclusions you do.

 

[dignitized]

Prayer is beginning to sound like it is a pill. That is not what it is.

then what is it? Do you not believe that we should take all things in prayer?

 

[SnowBird77]

then what is it? Do you not believe that we should take all things in prayer?

Prayer is an attitude; an ongoing conversation. It is not a spin of the lottery wheel hoping you will land on the jackpot. Prayer does not twist the arm of an unwillling God.

 

[dignitized]

Prayer is an attitude; an ongoing conversation. It is not a spin of the lottery wheel hoping you will land on the jackpot. Prayer does not twist the arm of an unwillling God.

Prayer does move God but NOT by intimidation - ratehr by our heart and motivations in prayer.

 

[SnowBird77]

Prayer does move God but NOT by intimidation - ratehr by our heart and motivations in prayer.

"Before they call I will answer, and while they are yet speaking I will hear." That does not sound like someone waiting to be moved.

 

[dignitized]

PREADVENTURE LORD! Gen 18:22-33

REMEMBER LORD! ex 32:11-14

BESEACH THEE LORD! Jer 26:19 Amo 7:1-7

In all cases - the Lord relented and REPENTED because of someones prayers.

 

[dcyates]

For some of you guys who know a little of New Testament Greek could you give me a literal translation of James 5:16b? I was thinking it should probably read, "The prayer of a righteous man prevails much in its inworking." What you think?

For a literal rendition, I would translate it: "The petition of a righteous person, being effective, has great power." For a more dynamically equivalent translation, one could go with: "The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."