Jail The Prosecutor: Zimmerman Case

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The evidence in question? It's very material:
The folks over at theconservativetreehouse have been all over this; they (and I) have been watching developments in this case like a hawk. Rather than dribble it all out, however, I thought I'd wait until there was so much to present at once that a threshold was reached -- essentially irrefutable evidence of prosecutorial misconduct."

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This goes all the way back to the original arrest affidavit. Remember that Alan Dershowitz referred to the affidavit as unethical and irresponsible. He also stated that the filing of the affidavit itself may have even been criminal. When the prosecution starts out from such an unethical point, it follows that the behavior would only escalate in order to move forward with the prosecution​
 
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As much as I have been critical of Zimmerman's conduct, he should have a fair trial. As I have said before, prosecutorial misconduct is the scandal that doesn't get the attention it deserves.
 
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Corey's MO is to overcharge to get a plea.
 
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Isn't that the MO of almost every procecutor?


Overcharging is not by itself that much of a problem. Withholding evidence, encouraging perjury, etc. is a major problem.
 
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Overcharging is not by itself that much of a problem. Withholding evidence, encouraging perjury, etc. is a major problem.
I disagree. Overcharging is coercive, especially to people without good access to decent legal representation. It comes down to a gamble - time served and a guilty plea or fifteen years on a guilty verdict.

If you are actually innocent, but poor or have children to support, what are you going to do?
 
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As much as I have been critical of Zimmerman's conduct, he should have a fair trial. As I have said before, prosecutorial misconduct is the scandal that doesn't get the attention it deserves.

This also puts all the other evidence the prosecutor intends to use in question and any witnesses (assuming the prosecutor has any). This is actually grounds to throw out the entire case, and Zimmerman now has a pretty solid case to appeal any conviction due to the prosecutor's behavior.

Prosecutors don't get jailed for those kinds of shenanigans, they get promoted.

I'm sure the Duke LaCrosse prosecutor would agree with you, oh wait didn't he lose his law license for starters...
 
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Yes he did. But he is an outlier. Most prosecutors that break the law don't even get a slap on the wrist.
 
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Yes he did. But he is an outlier. Most prosecutors that break the law don't even get a slap on the wrist.

However like the Duke Lacrosse case, this one has turned into a media circus, so it's entirely possible that this prosecutor will get a lot more than a mere slap on the wrist.
 
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I disagree. Overcharging is coercive, especially to people without good access to decent legal representation. It comes down to a gamble - time served and a guilty plea or fifteen years on a guilty verdict.

Hopefully, in a murder case, 15 years isn't all one gets if found guilty?
Leave that nonsense to us here in Scandinavia, where the omnipresent legal principle seems to be: "It's society's fault, not the criminal's"
 
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Hopefully, in a murder case, 15 years isn't all one gets if found guilty?
Leave that nonsense to us here in Scandinavia, where the omnipresent legal principle seems to be: "It's society's fault, not the criminal's"


The issue here is that the prosecution tried to destroy evidence... Who knows what other evidence is missing that would bolster the defense's case...
 
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The issue here is that the prosecution tried to destroy evidence... Who knows what other evidence is missing that would bolster the defense's case...
I thought the evidence was simply withheld (bad enough), not destroyed.
 
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I thought the evidence was simply withheld (bad enough), not destroyed.
From the Op's link:

"...A court employee who retrieved photos and deleted text messages from Trayvon Martin's cellphone..."
 
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