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J.N.D. Kelly: Irenaeus' View of Scripture and Tradition

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I wasrecently reading about Irenaeus and his view on the relationship between Scripture and Tradition. He is often misrepresented in apologetical discussions, so I thought I would share with you some of what Kelly wrote. You might find it interesting (bolding mine):

Did Irenaeus then subordinate Scripture to unwritten tradition? This inference has been commonly drawn, but it issues from a somewhat misleading antithesis. Its plausibility depends on such considerations as (a) that, in controversy with the Gnostics, tradition rather than Scripture seemed to be his final court of appeal, and (b) that he apparently relied upon tradition to establish the true exegesis of Scripture. But a careful analysis of his Adverus haereses reveals that, while the Gnostics' appeal to their supposed secret tradition forced him to stress the superiority of the Church's public tradition, his real defence of orthodoxy was founded on Scripture. Indeed, tradition itself, on his view was confirmed by Scripture, which was 'the foundation and pillar of our faith'. Secondly, Irenaeus admittedly suggested that a firm grasp of 'the canon of the truth' received at baptism would prevent a man from distorting the sense of Scripture. But this 'canon', so far from being something distinct from Scripture, was simply a condensation of the message contained in it. Being by its very nature normative in form, it provided a man with a handy clue to Scripture, whose very ramifications played into the hands of heretics. The whole point of his teaching was, in fact, that Scripture and the Church's unwritten tradition are identical in content, both being vehicles of the revelation. If tradition as conveyed in the 'canon' is a more trustworthy guide, this is not because it comprises truths other than those revealed in Scripture, but because the true tenor of the apostolic message is there unambiguously set out. (p. 38-39, J.N.D. Kelly's Early Christian Doctrines, HarperSanFrancisco, New York, NY, 1978)

If you are interested in the foot-notes of this text, please let me know.

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InquisitorKind said:
I wasrecently reading about Irenaeus and his view on the relationship between Scripture and Tradition. He is often misrepresented in apologetical discussions, so I thought I would share with you some of what Kelly wrote. You might find it interesting (bolding mine):

Did Irenaeus then subordinate Scripture to unwritten tradition? This inference has been commonly drawn, but it issues from a somewhat misleading antithesis. Its plausibility depends on such considerations as (a) that, in controversy with the Gnostics, tradition rather than Scripture seemed to be his final court of appeal, and (b) that he apparently relied upon tradition to establish the true exegesis of Scripture. But a careful analysis of his Adverus haereses reveals that, while the Gnostics' appeal to their supposed secret tradition forced him to stress the superiority of the Church's public tradition, his real defence of orthodoxy was founded on Scripture. Indeed, tradition itself, on his view was confirmed by Scripture, which was 'the foundation and pillar of our faith'. Secondly, Irenaeus admittedly suggested that a firm grasp of 'the canon of the truth' received at baptism would prevent a man from distorting the sense of Scripture. But this 'canon', so far from being something distinct from Scripture, was simply a condensation of the message contained in it. Being by its very nature normative in form, it provided a man with a handy clue to Scripture, whose very ramifications played into the hands of heretics. The whole point of his teaching was, in fact, that Scripture and the Church's unwritten tradition are identical in content, both being vehicles of the revelation. If tradition as conveyed in the 'canon' is a more trustworthy guide, this is not because it comprises truths other than those revealed in Scripture, but because the true tenor of the apostolic message is there unambiguously set out. (p. 38-39, J.N.D. Kelly's Early Christian Doctrines, HarperSanFrancisco, New York, NY, 1978)

If you are interested in the foot-notes of this text, please let me know.

~Matt
Good Day, Matt

I am interested in the foot notes so that we can discuss them here.

Thanks

Bill
 
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I have read much of what he is speaking about and did a report about it. I do not thinnk he thought tradition was a more trustworthy guide. He used both but what I found is that he thought tradition is equal wiht scripture. What I mean by that is that the church tradition is on equal footing as scripture because of apostolic succession. I can't agree with that but I think he stressed this fact because of the many heresies he was fighting against. The gnostics were trying to preach their gospel and he had to show how they were not part of the true church. Without an agreed upon NT canon I think he did a good job but like many he went too far. Now I could be wrong and Kelley is much more of a scholar on this than I am but that is what I came to after reading Ireaneus.
 
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As requested, here is the original text with footnotes:

Did Irenaeus then subordinate Scripture to unwritten tradition? This inference has been commonly drawn, but it issues from a somewhat misleading antithesis. Its plausibility depends on such considerations as (a) that, in controversy with the Gnostics, tradition rather than Scripture seemed to be his final court of appeal, and (b) that he apparently relied upon tradition to establish the true exegesis of Scripture. But a careful analysis of his Adverus haereses reveals that, while the Gnostics' appeal to their supposed secret tradition forced him to stress the superiority of the Church's public tradition, his real defence of orthodoxy was founded on Scripture[1]. Indeed, tradition itself, on his view was confirmed by Scripture, which was 'the foundation and pillar of our faith'. [2] Secondly, Irenaeus admittedly suggested[3] that a firm grasp of 'the canon of the truth' received at baptism would prevent a man from distorting the sense of Scripture. But this 'canon', so far from being something distinct from Scripture, was simply a condensation of the message contained in it. Being by its very nature normative in form, it provided a man with a handy clue to Scripture, whose very ramifications played into the hands of heretics. The whole point of his teaching was, in fact, that Scripture and the Church's unwritten tradition are identical in content, both being vehicles of the revelation. If tradition as conveyed in the 'canon' is a more trustworthy guide, this is not because it comprises truths other than those revealed in Scripture, but because the true tenor of the apostolic message is there unambiguously set out. (p. 38-39, J.N.D. Kelly's Early Christian Doctrines, HarperSanFrancisco, New York, NY, 1978)

1. Cf. ib. [Haer--Against Heresies] 2, 35, 4; 3, praef.; 3, 2, I; 3, 5, I; 4, praef, I; 5, praef.
2. Ib. 3, praef.; 3, I, I.
3. Ib. I, 9, 4.

I sometimes have trouble navigating the footnotes simply because I am not familiar with this type of notation, although I can usually find what Kelly is referring to. If you need help with finding any of the texts being discussed, I can try and link you to what's available on the internet. These particular references, as far as I have studied this, can be found here:

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/TOC.htm#TopOfPage

Scroll to the bottom of the page and look under "Irenaeus Against Heresies" for the respective book you desire to search.

~Matt
 
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