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It's Official - The Report of Bounties On US Troops Is a Hoax
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<blockquote data-quote="tall73" data-source="post: 75895403" data-attributes="member: 125574"><p>What about assisting in siege warfare and the Saudi's targeting of civilians in Yemen which we did under the Obama and Trump administrations, causing one of the largest humanitarian crisis in the world?</p><p></p><p>And in regards to election meddling:</p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/sunday-review/russia-isnt-the-only-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html" target="_blank">Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too. (Published 2018)</a></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"><strong>“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,</strong>” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. <strong>The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically, he said, “and I hope we keep doing it.”</strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #006600">Loch K. Johnson, <a href="http://spia.uga.edu/faculty-member/loch-k-johnson/" target="_blank">the dean of American intelligence scholars</a>, who began his career in the 1970s investigating the C.I.A. as a staff member of the Senate’s Church Committee, says Russia’s 2016 operation was simply the cyber-age version of standard United States practice for decades, whenever American officials were worried about a foreign vote.</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">A Carnegie Mellon scholar, <a href="http://www.dovhlevin.com/" target="_blank">Dov H. Levin</a>, has scoured the historical record for both overt and covert election influence operations. He found <a href="http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0738894216661190" target="_blank">81 by the United States and 36 by the Soviet Union or Russia</a> between 1946 and 2000, though the Russian count is undoubtedly incomplete.</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">“I’m not in any way justifying what the Russians did in 2016,” Mr. Levin said. “It was completely wrong of Vladimir Putin to intervene in this way. That said, the methods they used in this election were the digital version of methods used both by the United States and Russia for decades: breaking into party headquarters, recruiting secretaries, placing informants in a party, giving information or disinformation to newspapers.”</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tall73, post: 75895403, member: 125574"] What about assisting in siege warfare and the Saudi's targeting of civilians in Yemen which we did under the Obama and Trump administrations, causing one of the largest humanitarian crisis in the world? And in regards to election meddling: [COLOR=#006600] [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/sunday-review/russia-isnt-the-only-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html']Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too. (Published 2018)[/URL] [B]“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,[/B]” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. [B]The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically, he said, “and I hope we keep doing it.”[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006600]Loch K. Johnson, [URL='http://spia.uga.edu/faculty-member/loch-k-johnson/']the dean of American intelligence scholars[/URL], who began his career in the 1970s investigating the C.I.A. as a staff member of the Senate’s Church Committee, says Russia’s 2016 operation was simply the cyber-age version of standard United States practice for decades, whenever American officials were worried about a foreign vote. “We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.” A Carnegie Mellon scholar, [URL='http://www.dovhlevin.com/']Dov H. Levin[/URL], has scoured the historical record for both overt and covert election influence operations. He found [URL='http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0738894216661190']81 by the United States and 36 by the Soviet Union or Russia[/URL] between 1946 and 2000, though the Russian count is undoubtedly incomplete. “I’m not in any way justifying what the Russians did in 2016,” Mr. Levin said. “It was completely wrong of Vladimir Putin to intervene in this way. That said, the methods they used in this election were the digital version of methods used both by the United States and Russia for decades: breaking into party headquarters, recruiting secretaries, placing informants in a party, giving information or disinformation to newspapers.” [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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