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It's Official - The Report of Bounties On US Troops Is a Hoax

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by SoldierOfTheKing, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. SoldierOfTheKing

    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    Pentagon Denies NYT Claim of Russian Bounty on US Soldiers in Afghanistan

    The US Department of Defence (DoD) Has officially denied a New York Times (NYT) report that Russian intelligence offered bounty to the Taliban for killing US and coalition soldiers in Afghanistan.
    Chief Pentagon Spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in a statement Monday, "The Department of Defense continues to evaluate intelligence that Russian GRU operatives were engaged in malign activity against United States and coalition forces in Afghanistan. To date, DOD has no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations found in open-source reports. Regardless, we always take the safety and security of our forces in Afghanistan — and around the world — most seriously and therefore continuously adopt measures to prevent harm from potential threats."

    Surprise, surprise, the lying press lies...
     
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  2. grasping the after wind

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    It always seemed like a strange way for the Russians to spend their money. Paying the Taliban to attack Americans in Afghanistan would be like paying a heterosexual adolescent boy to have sex with a beautiful woman. I'm sure they would take your money but why would you bother to offer it?
     
  3. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Assume for a moment that the bounties are real: What would the DoD gain by confirming it?
     
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  4. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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    Aside from the fact that the Taliban was working on a peace agreement with the US, and that offering financial incentives to ramp up activity could negatively affect that process, sure.
     
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  5. SoldierOfTheKing

    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    They're not. That's been settled.
     
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  6. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    Why do you want to assume it? I am more likely to assume that the NYT is again publishing something from an anonymous source that they have not bothered to substantiate because they want to assume it is true.
     
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  7. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Not in any meaningful way.
     
  8. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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    Well, for one, they've got a significant number of sources, including outside the US, who corroborate the story. It's not just "an" anonymous source.
     
  9. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    Who are those sources? I am interested to know the names.
     
  10. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    What we "want" is irrelevant. If the bounties are real, why would the DoD admit it?

    Of course you are; that's a given. I'm asking you to step out of your comfort zone momentarily and consider an alternative.

    I entertained your assumption, but since the NYT is not the only source of information on the bounties, your version of events seems unlikely.
     
  11. Hank77

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    "The Department of Defense continues to evaluate intelligence that Russian GRU operatives were engaged in malign activity against United States and coalition forces in Afghanistan. To date, DOD has no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations found in open-source reports.

    That says to me that, the DOD continues to evaluate intelligence and that so far they don't have any evidence of it.
    I don't see where they are saying that it is definitively untrue.

    I have doubts about but they have not said it was a lie.
     
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  12. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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  13. Albion

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    But it really doesn't matter. This chapter in the campaign to get the president out of office by "whatever it takes" may persuade a few people who don't look too closely at the whole story.

    And that's all that the President's detractors need.

    Notice that the Trump-Putin bromance--also a hoax--is still being peddled by prominent politicians and reiterated by the same media you are referring to.
     
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  14. GoldenBoy89

    GoldenBoy89 We're Still Here

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    The government says it so it must be true.
     
  15. Tom 1

    Tom 1 Optimistic sceptic Supporter

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    Uh, no it isn’t. Basing your notions on one thing isn’t helping your credibility much.
     
  16. Albion

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    ?? But since the government DID NOT say it's so....

    :scratch:
     
  17. Tom 1

    Tom 1 Optimistic sceptic Supporter

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    In fact, it’s exactly the opposite. I’m yet to encounter a single person who has done anything like what might be called a bit of research into any of these hoax claims, and yet, without any knowledge of the situation at all, they all claim that their random notions about it are absolute truth.
     
  18. cow451

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    Your lack of discernment is noted. Why start another thread on the same topic?
     
  19. durangodawood

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    Whats the difference?

    Hoax or not, Trump people are voting for him this fall.
     
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  20. Kentonio

    Kentonio Well-Known Member

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    Funny that the U.K. DOD confirmed today they had received the intel. Almost like someone at the pentagon is trying to cover for Trump isn’t it?
     
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