It should be Murder?

[Cearbhall]

If science cannot answer a question dealing with science, then no one can!

It's not a question that deals with science...

 

[Nic Samojluk]

As several people have now reminded you, if you wish a discussion on the morality of abortion, then start your own!

You keep ignoring the fact that this blog mentions ethics and morality: Are you purposely ignoring this?

"It should be Murder?
Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by SteveB28, Dec 28, 2015."

 

[Nic Samojluk]

The neighbour on your left was obviously pregnant. One morning, she tells you that she suffered a miscarriage the day before and has 'lost' the pregnancy. She doesn't want to speak further. What do you, the model responsible citizen, do now? Do you make a report to the authorities?

No! Because I have no evidence that she is lying. No evidence = no chance of conviction!

 

[Nic Samojluk]

You take your understanding of the law from inscriptions written on money!?

There is a wise saying which reads: "Follow the money!"

 

[Cearbhall]

No! Because I have no evidence that she is lying. No evidence = no chance of conviction!

You don't have evidence, but the authorities might be able to find something out. Let's say she says "Oh, my kid fell down the stairs and died. We went and buried him in the family plot." You wouldn't tell anyone because you don't have evidence that she's lying? Miscarriages happen, sure, but the ones who are lying will never get caught if there's never an investigation!

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Is anyone here advocating for forced abortion?

By justifying the killing of innocent unborn babies, you become accomplices to the commission of a crime.

 

[Cearbhall]

By justifying the killing of innocent unborn babies, you become accomplices to the commission of a crime.

I said forced abortion. Please just answer the simple question instead of throwing irrelevant shade.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

What part of "not a scientific question" didn't you understand?

I do understand the question. What I don't understand is you answer!

 

[Nic Samojluk]

I disagree. Now what?

We agree to disagree!

 

[Cearbhall]

I do understand the question. What I don't understand is you answer!

Legal personhood is not a scientific matter. It is, quite literally, the question of when we as a society decide to grant a human with certain legal rights. Some are granted at viability or birth. Others are instead tied to the concept of legal adulthood.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Nature kills indiscriminately.

Yes, but if I start behaving like nature does, I end up with jail time.

 

[Cearbhall]

We agree to disagree!

Wait what. I changed the text of that post roughly 13 minutes before you responded to the original text.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

A ten year girl is raped and falls pregnant. You would be happy to force this girl by law to carry the baby to full term?

I have no power to force anyone to carry a baby to term. All I can do is provide a moral answer if requested! Right now the law protects abortionists and murderers.

A friend of mine, who is a physician, told me that a patient of his demanded an abortion past the point of viability. He reported this to the authorities, and the woman was incarcerated until the baby was born.

 

[Cearbhall]

I have no power to force anyone to carry a baby to term.

Would you or would you not vote in favor of a law that would require a young rape survivor to carry to term?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

You don't have evidence, but the authorities might be able to find something out. Let's say she says "Oh, my kid fell down the stairs and died. We went and buried him in the family plot."

This is a different case, because it is illegal to bury someone without a physicians death certificate.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Please just answer the simple question instead of throwing irrelevant shade.

Can you rephrase the question? I am having trouble locating it!

 

[Nic Samojluk]

I changed the text of that post roughly 13 minutes before you responded to the original text.

Can you re-post it? Where is it?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Would you or would you not vote in favor of a law that would require a young rape survivor to carry to term?

A law like that must exist. Did you miss the example I provided:

"A friend of mine, who is a physician, told me that a patient of his demanded an abortion past the point of viability. He reported this to the authorities, and the woman was incarcerated until the baby was born."

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Will you call for women who have an IUD fitted to be executed for attempted murder?

Is execution the way society deal with "attempted" murder? Where?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Suicide is sort of illegal. Of course, victims of suicide cannot be prosecuted and people who attempt suicide will not be arrested and tried

They should! Those who succeed in their suicide attempt should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and subjected to the death penalty.