Issues in Scienceville.

[Inan3]

I had a nice healthy salad today for dinner X 2.

Looks like you even grilled the bun!!

 

[mzungu]

Thank you so much... and such a pretty kitty!! One more question... Is there some way you can save a post like this so I can refer to it again with out having to look all over the place for it? Thanks in advance!!

Just bookmark it!

 

[sandwiches]

Looks like you even grilled the bun!!

I did. It's the only way to do a burger right.

 

[sandwiches]

Also once you've attached an image, you can use it in the future with the img tags.
Go to your User CP
At the bottom of the stuff on the left is "Attachments"
Click on that and it will open up all the images you've uploaded as attachments (it's a good idea to name the photo when you upload it so you know specifically which one you want to add in a later post).
Click on the image and it will open up in a new window.
Cut and past the URL to your new post using the img tags Like this:

It's a photo of my cat licking condensation of a beer can that I posted 3 or 4 years ago and that would produce:

eta - blurgh, I thought I had resized that. Oh well, it's so cute I'm going to leave it up. And it was 5 years ago.

Natty light, man? Really? =P

 

[pgp_protector]

Just bookmark it!

Thank you so much... and such a pretty kitty!! One more question... Is there some way you can save a post like this so I can refer to it again with out having to look all over the place for it? Thanks in advance!!

Yep either bookmark it, or send the link to it to yourself via PM / e-mail.

 

[Inan3]

Just bookmark it!

never thought of that!!! Good idea, thanks!!!

 

[Inan3]

Yep either bookmark it, or send the link to it to yourself via PM / e-mail.

Thanks again!!!

 

[Inan3]

Nope I never lied about the issues in Scienceville. It's all true!!


Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview

Summary
The writer interviewed over 100 persons who were active in what is known as the creation-intelligent design movement. Most felt that the standard evolutionary paradigm of origins was inadequate and should be ‘balanced’ with alternative positions. The creationists interviewed differed considerably relative to their views of origins, and about half would be identified with the seven day literal 24-hour day non-gap universal Noachian deluge creationist position. Almost all felt that they had faced serious religious discrimination in their academic careers at least once or more often. The discrimination ranged from derogatory comments to denial of tenure or an earned degree. The writer also reviewed the literature and interviewed about a dozen academic deans and department chairs in the field of science. All, without exception, felt that openly holding a ‘scientific creation’ worldview would seriously impede or terminate an academic career. Many openly stated that they would not hire or support the candidacy of an out-of-the-closet scientific creationist for a tenured position in academia.



Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview

 

[Hespera]

Nope I never lied about the issues in Scienceville. It's all true!!


Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview

Summary
The writer interviewed over 100 persons who were active in what is known as the creation-intelligent design movement. Most felt that the standard evolutionary paradigm of origins was inadequate and should be ‘balanced’ with alternative positions. The creationists interviewed differed considerably relative to their views of origins, and about half would be identified with the seven day literal 24-hour day non-gap universal Noachian deluge creationist position. Almost all felt that they had faced serious religious discrimination in their academic careers at least once or more often. The discrimination ranged from derogatory comments to denial of tenure or an earned degree. The writer also reviewed the literature and interviewed about a dozen academic deans and department chairs in the field of science. All, without exception, felt that openly holding a ‘scientific creation’ worldview would seriously impede or terminate an academic career. Many openly stated that they would not hire or support the candidacy of an out-of-the-closet scientific creationist for a tenured position in academia.



Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview

I could sy of course that Angelina Jolie has a crooked smile, uneven teeth, lopsided face, here nose is too big / too small, one eye is bigger er than the other, and lower on face, big pores and not say a word that isnt technically true.

could say such things of anyone on planet earth. My term for it is 'lying with the truth".

and advertisers....
they are careful not to lie too but they suuuuuure can distort things. We doubt they fool themselves, which is how they are different from True Believers.

 

[Insane_Duck]

Nope I never lied about the issues in Scienceville. It's all true!!


Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview

Summary
The writer interviewed over 100 persons who were active in what is known as the creation-intelligent design movement. Most felt that the standard evolutionary paradigm of origins was inadequate and should be ‘balanced’ with alternative positions. The creationists interviewed differed considerably relative to their views of origins, and about half would be identified with the seven day literal 24-hour day non-gap universal Noachian deluge creationist position. Almost all felt that they had faced serious religious discrimination in their academic careers at least once or more often. The discrimination ranged from derogatory comments to denial of tenure or an earned degree. The writer also reviewed the literature and interviewed about a dozen academic deans and department chairs in the field of science. All, without exception, felt that openly holding a ‘scientific creation’ worldview would seriously impede or terminate an academic career. Many openly stated that they would not hire or support the candidacy of an out-of-the-closet scientific creationist for a tenured position in academia.



Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview

Which creation story should balance evolution? Oh wait, these scientists were all Christians weren't they!

 

[Hespera]

Which creation story should balance evolution? Oh wait, these scientists were all Christians weren't they!

The elephant in the room item omitted from any of that is that no creationist can supply any actual data to support their claims.

if the person were an "atlantisist" or a bigfootist" and tried to do academic work based on, yes, zero data, they should be denied a degree, promotion, tenure, or whatever fits.

And what does Christian ministries call those who wont accept aero data work?

BIGOTS!

 

[Insane_Duck]

The elephant in the room item omitted from any of that is that no creationist can supply any actual data to support their claims.

if the person were an "atlantisist" or a bigfootist" and tried to do academic work based on, yes, zero data, they should be denied a degree, promotion, tenure, or whatever fits.

And what does Christian ministries call those who wont accept aero data work?

BIGOTS!

Kansas Outlaws Practice Of Evolution | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

And, bonus:

Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

 

[Inan3]

I could sy of course that Angelina Jolie has a crooked smile, uneven teeth, lopsided face, here nose is too big / too small, one eye is bigger er than the other, and lower on face, big pores and not say a word that isnt technically true.

could say such things of anyone on planet earth. My term for it is 'lying with the truth".

and advertisers....
they are careful not to lie too but they suuuuuure can distort things. We doubt they fool themselves, which is how they are different from True Believers.

So let me ask, are you saying I'm lying, Hespera?

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Subscribing

 

[Insane_Duck]

So let me ask, are you saying I'm lying, Hespera?

Did you answer my questions?

 

[Inan3]

Which creation story should balance evolution? Oh wait, these scientists were all Christians weren't they!

Operative word "scientists" these are scientists that are being intimidated and suppressed just because they disagree. Other scientists KNOW this happens and therefore they don't make waves and "accept" the so-called evidence that so-called "proves" evolution etc. This has been going on for a century so that new scientists don't even challenge or know the "so-called" evidence because it seems to be solid and accepted.

 

[Inan3]

Did you answer my questions?

Not sure. What questions? If you asked them you should know if I answered them??

 

[Hespera]

So let me ask, are you saying I'm lying, Hespera?

I think we just went 'round with this earlier where you said I'd called you stupid when i didnt.

But to answer the q, Nope, you dont need to ask me if I am saying what I didnt say.

I kinda hoped my description of angelina jolie would illustrate what it is you are doing.

What would you call it? Fair, balanced, objective, accurate, common sense, and so on? Propaganda, cant, slanted, biased? Tendentious?

Seriously, what would you choose to call it?

 

[Insane_Duck]

Operative word "scientists" these are scientists that are being intimidated and suppressed just because they disagree. Other scientists KNOW this happens and therefore they don't make waves and "accept" the so-called evidence that so-called "proves" evolution etc. This has been going on for a century so that new scientists don't even challenge or know the "so-called" evidence because it seems to be solid and accepted.

^ This is what I was referring to. (questions)

And no, it's not discrimination. Science has rules, and religion fails to follow them. For the reason I posted (which story?) I wouldn't take their claim or mission seriously. If they had (need more information) indeed been legitimately been discriminated against then that is indeed bad, but I'll need more evidence for that.

 

[Hespera]

Operative word "scientists" these are scientists that are being intimidated and suppressed just because they disagree. Other scientists KNOW this happens and therefore they don't make waves and "accept" the so-called evidence that so-called "proves" evolution etc. This has been going on for a century so that new scientists don't even challenge or know the "so-called" evidence because it seems to be solid and accepted.

Nonsense from one end to the other.

so-called "proves" evolution

is a prize exhibit of nonsense.


the core of what you are saying tho is that scientists around the world conspire to suppress knowledge and in various other ways constantly violate the most basic concepts and principles of their profession.

The "intimidation and suppression" is not true, and I would kind of think a good christian would hesitate... but maybe not.

The essence of "creation science" is to violate the most basic principles and code of conduct in science.

Conclusion first and then try to demonstrate it with no data.

IF a person is trying to get accepted for doing research inside out and backwards they can expect what they get. No respect.

Sometimes a person with a radical new idea has a hard time getting it accepted.

If he has data on his side, it will win out eventually.

If evolution were a c rock, some physicist at the U of Beijing would find a way to neatly falsify the whole thing. maybe a chemist in Mumbai.

Pretending that the data is there but people who try to pursue it is plain ridiculous.