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well they are not Arabs, Romans, American, Russians or even Jews who DO NOT believe in Yeshua as King....but the story isn't over yet, and in the mean time while we wait the land belongs to the JewsKEPLER said:Tish--answer me this: who are the "Children" of the promise made to Abraham?
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Melethiel said:I'm going to bed now. Play nice, all of you...don't start a fight without me and make me miss all the fun.
Tishri1 said:well they are not Arabs, Romans, American, Russians or even Jews who DO NOT believe in Yeshua as King....but the story isn't over yet, and in the mean time while we wait the land belongs to the Jews
hey it probably doesn't even matter what I think cuz the Jews in leadership don't even appreciate that ABBA doesn't want them to give away the land...They are set stubbornly on this road of disobedience to God so I guess My opinion is just that an "opinion "in man's eyes...but I am praying for them everyday especially for the Messianic Jews who suffer everyday over there
GraceInHim said:Luciano looks like dracula.. who did his eyebrows.. lol.. sorry
jsisrl I was talking about Jewish Believers...Messianic Jews, they never rejected Himjsisrl said:Tishri1,
Yes,........they have had a hard brunt of God's Wrath on them especially since rejecting Christ
Tishri1 said:jsisrl I was talking about Jewish Believers...Messianic Jews, they never rejected Himmaybe you misunderstood me
again I'm not talking about Yeshuas disciplesOblio said:If this were true, there would not be remnants of Jewish temple worship in the Orthodox Church to this day.
Tishri1 said:jsisrl I was talking about Jewish Believers...Messianic Jews, they never rejected Himmaybe you misunderstood me
Oblio said:So, you meant Christians
It was certainly ambiguous to me (and probably others) when I made my reply earlier.
.Isa 40:1-5
0:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins.
3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Isa 51:3-4
3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
4 Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
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Isa 51:22-52:7
22 Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again:
23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.
Isaiah 52
52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.
2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.
3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.
4 For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause.
5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
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I know that! That was the #1 issue between the Believing Gentiles and the Jews in power at that time...How can these be Filled with the Power of God's Ruach HaKodesh and not be circumcised like us? Of course the Apostles new why...because their Man Made Conversion which included circumcision was not nessessary for salvation....yet there was a thorn- in- the -flesh group out there constantly harrassing these new converts to get converted anyway......again these were not Yeshua's disciples doing thisScholar in training said:Tishri, the Apostles said that circumcision was not necessary to enter into the new covenant with God. God had accepted Gentile and Jew alike. Baptism, in some ways, was and is the new circumcision.
I know that! That was the #1 issue between the Believing Gentiles and the Jews in power at that time...How can these be Filled with the Power of God's Ruach HaKodesh and not be circumcised like us? Of course the Apostles new why...because their Man Made Conversion which included circumcision was not nessessary for salvation....yet there was a thorn- in- the -flesh group out there constantly harrassing these new converts to get converted anyway......again these were not Yeshua's disciples doing thisScholar in training said:Tishri, the Apostles said that circumcision was not necessary to enter into the new covenant with God. God had accepted Gentile and Jew alike. Baptism, in some ways, was and is the new circumcision.
I showed my daughter her ultrasound the otherday and she got scared.....she begged me to turn it offKEPLER said:Yeah...frankly, it's a little bit weird...but cool, nonetheless.
Oblio said:No strife. Believers could mean anything, and religious Jews still believe in a Messiah, just not ours and he ain't here yetI really don't care what ethnic Jewish Christians are called by ya'll, I was only trying to decrease misunderstandings in a mixed crowd
One Grand-Sugar (from my wife's youngest from a previous marriage) coming up in July.
when I say Messianic Jews that's the same as saying Christian I forgot to clarify thatOblio said:So, you meant Christians
It was certainly ambiguous to me (and probably others) when I made my reply earlier.
jsisrl said:.....
The High-Priest was to interceed for the sins of their own and the peoples, (YOU HAD AGREED TO #2.) meaning they dealt with the sins - intercession .....But interceeding --- this was although the High-Priests role. And if you can't hear this, you most suredly can't hear this then,........you must die for the sins of Israel as Christ left you an example. You must die for them, so that your mercy might give them Life - and that Life from the Dead.Who's your enemy? Then die for them to Love them ARIGHT.
jsisrl said:.....So, I adjour you,....if you see Israel sinning be what you are called to BE: A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS UNTO GOD.
What was the Role of the High Priest?
Well, what is Jesus still ever wanting to do in HEAVEN RIGHT NOW for us and others? ----Interceeding ---- Praying for us -----to talk to God not to strick Him nor others.
And concerning intercession for others ...jsisrl said:See?
KEPLER said:EXCUSE ME....?
You're quoting a HERETIC to support your position?
John W. Ritenbaugh was a member of the Worldwide Church of God, a sect that until the mid-1990s denied the Trinity. He and his wife left the WCoG when the WCoG changed its doctrinal stance and accepted the Nicene formula of the Trinity, ca. 1995.
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