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But the measurement between events is measured by motion or distance????
One of the most logical arguments about what time is I have seen.
A revaluation of time and velocity by Miles Williams Mathis
Thats what I believe, time doesn't exist, and is just a human made concept, we only feel the passage of time due to the way we acumulate how matter and energy used to look in previous states.
You didn't answer the question about the 'lab'? how big is it?
So that is a thing that does exist, making the measurement of it as real as the measurement of any other physical property.
So, by your reckoning, the Doppler shift becomes invalid just outside the heliopause...Any volume of "lab" which offers me the opportunity to employ real and actual control mechanisms to my 'tests' is an acceptable size. How far have humans and their various devices ventured into space in 2019? That's about the current size limit.
So, by your reckoning, the Doppler shift becomes invalid just outside the heliopause...
Michael: "Doppler shift is specifically and *only* related to *moving objects* in the lab"
Did you chuckle when that same article told you the velocity was not to be confused with a real velocity???I had to chuckle when Justatruthseeker quoted at me from the Hubble's law - Wikipedia article that bases its calculations of recession velocity and the Doppler effect on co-moving points that are not moving relative to each other except as a result of the expansion of space.
Isn’t that Dad’s argument, that the laws of physics in our fishbowl only apply in our fishbowl?Nice strawman.Burn baby burn.
I'm not the one suggesting that empirical physics or lab demonstrated physics becomes invalid beyond some random point in spacetime like LCDM proponents do with respect to the area between superclusters. I think you burned the LCMD proponents with that strawman actually.
You're missing the point of that statement I'm afraid. I'll let you assert any *lab demonstrated* cause/effect mechanism as a "cause" that might occur anywhere in space. What I won't allow you to do (without complaining) is assert that the laws of physics stop applying at some random point in spacetime, like between galaxy superclusters.
You are the one insisting the lab is only as big as our galactic cluster...... that beyond that the same laws of physics don’t apply.You didn't answer the question about the 'lab'? how big is it?
What you think I do is simply your imagination, and of no interest.Did you chuckle when that same article told you the velocity was not to be confused with a real velocity???
No, you just continued to ignore that and confusingly think of it as a real velocity despite being told it wasn’t to be confused as such.
Your reading and comprehension and your science comprehension are equally impoverished.You are the one insisting the lab is only as big as our galactic cluster...... that beyond that the same laws of physics don’t apply.
Dad’s argument in a nutshell...... to which you object. Until you need to argue that point....
It’s of great interest since you keep arguing for a Doppler interpretation when they explicitly told you not to confuse it as a real velocity.......What you think I do is simply your imagination, and of no interest.
Nothing is of interest to you except upholding your false beliefs.....Your reading and comprehension and your science comprehension are equally impoverished.
What you imagine I insist on is of no interest to me.
But without that assertion of non demonstratable physics that can’t be observed in any lab, they got no theory. So they’ll assert it anyways, as undemonstrative theory is always more important than actual demonstratable facts.Nice strawman.Burn baby burn.
I'm not the one suggesting that empirical physics or lab demonstrated physics becomes invalid beyond some random point in spacetime like LCDM proponents do with respect to the area between superclusters. I think you burned the LCMD proponents with that strawman actually.
You're missing the point of that statement I'm afraid. I'll let you assert any *lab demonstrated* cause/effect mechanism as a "cause" that might occur anywhere in space. What I won't allow you to do (without complaining) is assert that the laws of physics stop applying at some random point in spacetime, like between galaxy superclusters.
Your misrepresentations of what I've said or think are of no interest.It’s of great interest since you keep arguing for a Doppler interpretation when they explicitly told you not to confuse it as a real velocity.......
There is no thinking to it, your statements clearly show you are confusing it as a real velocity even when told you were not supposed to do that.
Keep ignoring it though so you can continue in your false beliefs.....
Your misrepresentations of what I've said or think are of no interest.Nothing is of interest to you except upholding your false beliefs.....
But keep your conflicting arguments that the velocity that isn’t a real velocity is a velocity.
Keep your conflicting arguments that physics is the same everywhere, except outside our galactic cluster where suddenly new untested physics apply.
You are just upset and unable to answer because you realize we see right through your double talk and conflicting answers.....
My comprehension???
Says the guy that is arguing for a velocity when told not to confuse it with a real velocity....
Lol, I think you were looking in the mirror when you said that.....
Nothing is of interest to you except upholding your false beliefs.....
But keep your conflicting arguments that the velocity that isn’t a real velocity is a velocity.
But without that assertion of non demonstratable physics that can’t be observed in any lab, they got no theory. So they’ll assert it anyways, as undemonstrative theory is always more important than actual demonstratable facts.
You are the one insisting the lab is only as big as our galactic cluster...... that beyond that the same laws of physics don’t apply.
Dad’s argument in a nutshell...... to which you object. Until you need to argue that point....
When the space through which particles move is changing, the total energy of those particles is not conserved.
Your misrepresentations of what I've said or think are of no interest.
Your misrepresentations of what I've said or think are of no interest.
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