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Isn't KNOWING that you are going to heaven WONDERFUL??

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GreenEyedLady

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I am so glad that God saved my soul from hell. I am so glad that I know for SURE that I will see my Lord, my Master, My KING in heaven someday. His Word says that we should KNOW that we have everylasting life.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

My heart breaks for those who are lost in a religion that does not give them any security in thier salvation. The guilt.......the wonder......the not knowing.......Oh my heart just goes out to those who COULD know, but thier church is stopping them from knowing by works.

I am just greatful that God gave us His word, and that God never changes, but the world and the churches do. We all know that! Praise the Lord for HIS perfect WILL.

Lets PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My question is how do you feel knowing that so many others aren't going there with us because we don't care enough to persuade them with the truth and treat them with respect, and above all else to show God's love through our ongoing caring, and His forgiveness through real enduring patience with them.

Honestly I can't rejoice in my salvation, if it doesn't also mean the salvation of others, and the alleviation of others' hardships. They are all valued and loved by God just as much as I am, and it would be nasty beyond words for me to sit there being glad I am saved, while others around me are drowning, to rejoice that God saved me, while not caring about anyone else, to help Him save them. No offense meant; but that is how I feel personally.

 
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costlygrace said:

My question is how do you feel knowing that so many others aren't going there with us because we don't care enough to persuade them with the truth and treat them with respect, and above all else to show God's love through our ongoing caring, and His forgiveness through real enduring patience with them.

Honestly I can't rejoice in my salvation, if it doesn't also mean the salvation of others, and the alleviation of others' hardships. They are all valued and loved by God just as much as I am, and it would be nasty beyond words for me to sit there being glad I am saved, while others around me are drowning, to rejoice that God saved me, while not caring about anyone else, to help Him save them. No offense meant; but that is how I feel personally.

I don't know. I know I am doing everything I can to reach people with the gospel. Maybe there are things you can do, too?
 
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costlygrace said:

My question is how do you feel knowing that so many others aren't going there with us because we don't care enough to persuade them with the truth and treat them with respect, and above all else to show God's love through our ongoing caring, and His forgiveness through real enduring patience with them.

Honestly I can't rejoice in my salvation, if it doesn't also mean the salvation of others, and the alleviation of others' hardships. They are all valued and loved by God just as much as I am, and it would be nasty beyond words for me to sit there being glad I am saved, while others around me are drowning, to rejoice that God saved me, while not caring about anyone else, to help Him save them. No offense meant; but that is how I feel personally.

I see where you are coming from, but still yet I am going to rejoice over the fact that when my eyes close on this world, Jesus will be the next thing I see again, which there is absolutely nothing on this planet that can top that. Rejoicing in our salvation is a way of showing people the truth of Christ. I mean if we aren't happy about being saved, why would someone want something that doesn't make them happy? See what I mean? Be happy in your salvation and people will wonder why you are so happy and bam....witnessing opportunity. (Did I say happy enough? hehe;) )
 
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My advice is that we always keep Heaven AND Hell within our sights. We need to rejoice and thank God for our salvation, but we must also realize that the eternal destination of most of the people we meet everyday is Hell. We must make an effort to bring them to Christ, relationship evangelism almost never works, you must make an effort to steer the conversation toward spiritual things.
 
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lambslove said:
I'm amazed that some people will argue with a statement like, "Isn't KNOWING that you are going to heaven WONDERFUL??"

I guess some people have to focus on the half of the glass that's empty and can't enjoy for a moment the half of the glass that's full. :(
Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

Isaiah 12:3-6 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted. Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this is known in all the earth. Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.

AMEN! I am going to SHOUT, I am going to scream! I am going to sing unto the Lord. We CAN do that. We CAN rejoice, we CAN sing aloud and PRAISE our Lord God. We CAN be in love with HIM. Show all of those how wonderful salvation is. Being saved is not a pitty party, its a rejoicing party! This country NEEDS REVIVAL!!!!
Oh wouldn't that be somthing. For our country to have revival? Wouldn't it be awesome to have a huge tent in your town with preachers lined up to preach for 3 days strait and seeing souls saved, lives changed, souls revived, and JOY among the bretheren??????
WAKE UP!!!!
GEL^_^
 
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Hey, it's the active-positive people of this world who get things done, not the passive-negative people. By focussing only on the sad truth that some are perishing, and refusing to rejoice in our salvation, not only are we not following the instructions of God, but we are presenting a dour, unhappy, negative face for Christianity. We don't want them to think Christianity is about mourning, we want them to see it is about rejoicing in our salvation and our God!
 
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GreenEyedLady said:
Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

Isaiah 12:3-6 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted. Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this is known in all the earth. Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.

AMEN! I am going to SHOUT, I am going to scream! I am going to sing unto the Lord. We CAN do that. We CAN rejoice, we CAN sing aloud and PRAISE our Lord God. We CAN be in love with HIM. Show all of those how wonderful salvation is. Being saved is not a pitty party, its a rejoicing party! This country NEEDS REVIVAL!!!!
Oh wouldn't that be somthing. For our country to have revival? Wouldn't it be awesome to have a huge tent in your town with preachers lined up to preach for 3 days strait and seeing souls saved, lives changed, souls revived, and JOY among the bretheren??????
WAKE UP!!!!
GEL^_^
:amen: Amen to that! I finally got the courage up to call my Baptist Church up after a long absence and sporadic attendance because I have become lost in legalistic religion and lost my assurance of salvation. I am rejoicing today because I was lost and have found my way back to the Lord and am putting my eyes on Him not religion and not letting anything take away my assurance. I am rededicating my life to Him today and am rejoicing with you. Your posts are a blessing to people like me who at one time or another lose their assurance. God bless!

Jesus is Lord,:clap:

Mystica Angel
 
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MysticaAngel said:
:amen: Amen to that! I finally got the courage up to call my Baptist Church up after a long absence and sporadic attendance because I have become lost in legalistic religion and lost my assurance of salvation. I am rejoicing today because I was lost and have found my way back to the Lord and am putting my eyes on Him not religion and not letting anything take away my assurance. I am rededicating my life to Him today and am rejoicing with you. Your posts are a blessing to people like me who at one time or another lose their assurance. God bless!

Jesus is Lord,:clap:

Mystica Angel
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Hello my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ! I hope everyone is doing absolutely wonderful. I have question about OSAS. What verses do you have to back that up? What does mean one someones says "They were not truly saved in the first place?" God Bless:thumbsup:
 
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pentecostal girl said:
Hello my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ! I hope everyone is doing absolutely wonderful. I have question about OSAS. What verses do you have to back that up? What does mean one someones says "They were not truly saved in the first place?" God Bless:thumbsup:
Here's a few, but not all of them by any means.

John 10:29-30, “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”

Romans 8:38-39, “For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

Hebrews 5:9, “And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.”

1st Peter 1:3-5, “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”

Ephesians 4:30, “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

Hebrews 8: 26-28, “He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many.”

Hebrews 6:4-6, “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.”

Hebrews 13:5-6, “For He Himself has said, ‘I will never leave you nor forsake you,” So we may boldly say: ‘The Lord is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?’”

As for a person being truly saved, honestly that depends on their heart and relationship with Christ. All we have to go on is their fruit whether it is good or bad and the Bible says we will know them by their fruit. So if a person who claims to be a Christian is producing bad fruit or no fruit, then I would question their salvation, but in the end it's not for me to decide and only them and the Lord know. If you need any other info I would be happy to send you a paper I wrote. It better explains OSAS, but is too big to post here.

 
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Oh!!! Oh....please save this for another thread. This one is PACKED with JOY I tell you JOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are REDEEMED by the BLOOD of the Lamb.
We were bought by HIM.
AMEN Mystica! WHY NOT be joyful? I mean, does everyone really think that GOD wants us to be mooping around with sad sorrowful faces........NO. SHOWERS of blessings............Not sprinkels, not drops..........SHOWERS of blessings......NOT in heaven..........HERE on earth! NOT tommorrow, not someday showers.............NOW, right now............SHOWERS of Blessings is what the Lord wants for us!
NOW WAKE UP AND PRAISE ALMIGHTY GOD!
 
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