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Vainslain said in post #1:

I want to know what is the great strength of this theory . . .

It has none, for the Antichrist (the AC) (the individual-man aspect of the beast), during his future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Rev. 13:5-18), won't support Islam (in its past & current form), insofar as Islam affirms that Jesus is the Christ (e.g. Koran 4:157, 4:171), whereas the AC will deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 Jn. 2:22). And Islam affirms that Christ is in the flesh, whereas the AC (like the Gnostics) will deny that Christ is in the flesh (2 Jn. 1:7). And Islam affirms that the God of the Bible (YHWH) is the true God, whereas the AC (like the Gnostics) will utterly revile YHWH (Rev. 13:6, Dan. 11:36). And Islam affirms that no man can be God, whereas the AC will say he's God (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36). And Islam forbids the worship of any images (Koran 21:52, 6:74), whereas the AC will have an image made of himself to be worshipped (Rev. 13:15). And Islam rejects Satan/Lucifer as being evil, whereas the AC will bring the world into the worship of Lucifer (the dragon) (Rev. 13:4, 12:9). So the AC's religion during his 3.5-year worldwide reign won't be Islam in its past & current form, but a blend of Luciferianism & Gnosticism.

Nonetheless, before Lucifer gives the AC power over all nations (Rev. 13:4-7), the AC & the man who'll be his False Prophet (Rev. 19:20) (who could be a future, apostate pope), could at 1st pretend to wholly support Islam in its current form (as well as Christianity), in order to start gaining a worldwide following.

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Also, the 7 heads of the beast in its empire aspect (Rev. 13:1, 17:3) represent 7 empires (Rev. 17:9-10): Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, & (possibly) Islam. The first 5 had fallen by the time of John in the 1st century AD: "five are fallen" (Rev. 17:10, 1:1b-2). The 6th (Rome) existed at the time of John: "one is" (Rev. 17:10). The 7th (possibly Islam) had not come by the time of John: "the other is not yet come" (Rev. 17:10). The empire of the Antichrist (the AC) (the individual-man aspect of the beast) will be a different, still-future, 8th head (Rev. 17:11), which will be a revival of 1 of the 5 empires which had fallen by the time of John (Rev. 17:8,10-11). It could be a revival of the empire of Babylon. The AC may claim to be Nebuchadnezzar returned, and so reinstitute the system that Nebuchadnezzar set up whereby everyone had to worship an image or be killed (Dan. 3, Rev. 13:15).

And the AC could make his world capital in the rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq), & build a main temple to himself (& Lucifer/Satan) there. For a temple to "wickedness" will be built in Shinar (Babylonia) (Zech. 5:8,11), & the AC is called "that Wicked" (2 Thes. 2:8). He may also claim to be Nimrod (the founder of Babylon: Gen. 10:8-10), & Hammurabi, & Asoka, et al. For the AC may claim he's had many different "past lives" as different human rulers.
 
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secondtimearound said in post #2:

How about evidence supporting the premises of an argument leading to the conclusion that God exists?

People can know God exists simply by seeing everything else that exists (Rom. 1:20, Ps. 19:1-4). The universe couldn't have created itself from nothing by physics, because of the 1st law of thermodynamics. So something outside of physics had to have created the universe. The term spirit is used to refer to that which is exists but is outside of physics. So what created the universe was a spirit (Jn. 4:24, 1:3). And there has to be an uncreated spirit, because nothing, not even a spirit, can create itself from nothing, for in order to create itself, it would have to already exist. The term divine can be used to refer to a conscious entity which exists but is uncreated. So the uncreated spirit who created the universe would be divine. So just by being able to see the universe, people have no excuse for denying the existence of a divine uncreated spirit (Rom. 1:20, Jn. 4:24, Ps. 19:1-4). And this spirit must have eternal power (Rom. 1:20), because the 1st law of thermodynamics requires that the energy in the universe is eternal.

Because knowing that God exists is the only reasonable response to seeing the existence of the physical universe (Rom. 1:20), when educated and intelligent people refuse to admit that God exists, this is only because they're intentionally choosing to be unreasonable, choosing to be foolish, with regard to God's existence, because of their human pride, their unthankfulness to God, and their desire to continue in sinful actions (Rom. 1:21-22, Ps. 14:1). But there's no salvation in simply believing that God exists (Jas. 2:19). Believing in Jesus Christ, the human/divine Son of God, and his sacrifice on the Cross for our sins and his rising from the dead on the 3rd day, is the only way for people to have their sins forgiven so they can avoid having to go to hell when they die (Jn. 3:16,36, Rom. 3:25, 1 Cor. 15:1-4).
 
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Hello to everyone. Perhaps this has been posted before but I want to know what is the great strength of this theory and why it deserve to be taken seriously above all others

The strength of the theory is the level of anti-Muslim sentiment and Islamaphobia that exists among a sector of the Evangelical West following 9-11.


It doesn't deserve to be taken seriously above all others.

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Gary7 said in post #8:

The future antichrist will be a Syrian . . .

Maybe not a Syrian exactly, but something very close. For the Antichrist (the AC) could have grown up as a Druze Arab, in Lebanon (right next to Syria), in the modern city of Tyre (Ezek. 28:2, 2 Thes. 2:4).

The AC could at 1st present himself to the world as being of the (quasi-Islamic) Druze religion, which is waiting for the 2nd coming of a God-man named "Hakim". The AC's last name could be "Hakim", & he could at 1st present himself to the Druze people as the fulfillment of the 2nd coming of the God-man. In this way, he could get the Druze to support him without question during an initial rise to power among the Arabs. The Druze Arabs could be the numerically "small people" of Dan. 11:23. The AC could make them his completely-devoted bodyguard, & buy them many key positions of power within a future United Arab States (which the AC could become the leader of in the 1st stage of his world takeover) & employ them as loyal spies at all levels of his United Arab government & military.

The Druze religion is very secretive. What it teaches to its higher-level initiates isn't even taught to its lower-level initiates. What it could teach to its higher-level initiates could basically be Gnosticism mixed in with the Hakim God-man idea. The AC himself, while outwardly a Druze, could inwardly be a Gnostic Luciferian. He could be a highest-level initiate of a worldwide secret society which ultimately teaches Gnostic Luciferianism, but keeps this a secret even from its own members who haven't been initiated into its highest level.

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Dan. 7's 4th beast, or 4th "king"/"kingdom" (Dan. 7:17,23), is the ancient Roman Empire. The 10 horns/kings which come out of it (Dan. 7:7,24) could represent 10 major kingdoms/nations today which came out the former territory of the Roman Empire, which consisted not only of Western Europe, but also the Middle East & North Africa. These 10 nations could be Germany, the U.K., France, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, & Syria. The 10 part-iron/part-clay toes of Dan. 2:42 could represent the same thing as the 10 horns of Dan. 7:7. The Europeans could be the iron, & the Arabs & Turks could be the clay. In Dan. 2:43, the inability of the iron to mix with the clay could represent how, e.g., there are many Turks living in Germany, but they remain separated in ghettoes within German cities. Similarly, there are many Algerians living in France, but they remain separated in ghettoes within French cities.

But despite this social separation, which could endure indefinitely, the people of Western Europe on the 1 hand, & the people of the Middle East & North Africa on the other, could still 1 day put aside their political separation & become united into 1 confederation (Dan. 2:42 refers to the 10 as a singular "kingdom"). The person who brings this about could be the AC. The arising of the "little" horn (Dan. 7:8, 8:9), which is "diverse" from the 10 major nations (Dan. 7:24), could mean the AC will arise from a little country. And the little horn arising from "among" the 10 major nations (Dan. 7:8) could mean the AC's country's territory used to be part of the Roman Empire. And before that, it could have been part of 1 of the 4 Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded the Greek Empire of Alexander the Great (Dan. 8:8-9,21-25). The territory of these 4 kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, & down into Egypt. So the AC could come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who'll come from the little country of Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezek. 28:2, 2 Thes. 2:4).

The AC could start out by claiming to be a Baathist. After becoming the leader of Lebanon, he could peacefully gain control of a Baathist confederation of 3 of the 10 major nations (Dan. 7:24): Egypt ("toward the south" of Lebanon: Dan. 8:9), Iraq & Syria ("toward the east" of Lebanon: Dan. 8:9). This confederation could also include the minor nation of a United Palestine (i.e. a defeated Israel, "the pleasant land": Dan. 8:9). This Baathist confederation could be put together in the future by an Iraqi Baathist General who could completely defeat & occupy Israel & Egypt (Dan. 11:15-17; in v. 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"), but who could then mysteriously disappear (Dan. 11:19) shortly before the AC arises on the world stage (Dan. 11:21-45). Years later, when the AC gains control over all 10 of the major nations, he could appoint kings over them (Rev. 17:12) who'll defer to him (Rev. 17:13), like, e.g., when Napoleon gained control over different nations, he appointed kings over them who'd defer to him.
 
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Gary7 said in post #8:

The future antichrist will be a Syrian, just like his predecessor, Antiochus Epiphanes.

Antiochus Epiphanes (who was genetically Greek) could have been a typical predecessor of the Antichrist (the AC) not re: his genetics, but re: his fulfillment of Dan. 8:9,23-25. For whereas Antiochus IV Epiphanes could have fulfilled Dan. 8:9,23-25 typically, the AC could fulfill it antitypically. The AC will fulfill Dan. 8:24a because he'll be mighty but not by his own power (Rev. 13:4, 2 Thes. 2:9). He'll fulfill Dan. 8:24b because he'll prosper & will physically destroy the holy people, the church (Rev. 13:7-10, Mt. 24:9-13). He'll fulfill Dan. 8:25a because he'll magnify himself (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36). And he'll fulfill Dan. 8:25b because he'll stand up against the Prince of princes (Rev. 19:19) & will be broken without hand (Rev. 19:20).

Also, the "abomination of desolation" (the AOD) in Dan. 11:31 was typically fulfilled by the AOD in 1 Maccabees 1:54, which occurred in the holy place of the 2nd Jewish temple in Jerusalem in the time of Antiochus Epiphanes. But per Mt. 24:15, the church will see the AOD in Dan. 11:31 fulfilled (antitypically) in the future, when the church will see the AOD "stand" "in" the holy place (of a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem). This future AOD could be a standing, android image of the AC (Rev. 13:15) which his followers ("they") will put in the holy place of the temple (Dan. 11:31) to be worshipped (Rev. 13:15), after "they" have stopped the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices which the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel will have restarted in front of the temple (Dan. 11:31). This image will "pollute" the holy place of the temple (Dan. 11:31). The AC will then fulfill Dan. 11:36/2 Thes. 2:4 by sitting himself in the temple & proclaiming himself God. By the power of Satan (the dragon), the AC (the individual-man aspect of the beast) will then rule & be worshipped by all the nations of the earth for 3.5 literal years (Rev. 13:4-8), & will physically overcome Biblical Christians in every nation (Rev. 13:7-10, 14:12-13, 20:4, Mt. 24:9-13).

Also, from the day on which (antitypically) "the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be 1,290 days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1,335 days" (Dan. 12:11-12, Rev. 16:15). Also, because the AC will fulfill Dan. 11:31 antitypically & will fulfill Dan. 11:36 for the 1st (& only) time, then he'll also fulfill all of Dan. 11:21-45 (the 1st part of it antitypically, & the rest for the 1st & only time) when he arises on the world stage, for that passage refers to the career of the same man. And since the AC will fulfill all of Dan. 11:21-45 when he arises on the world stage, then just preceding his arising on the world stage, Dan. 11:13-19 could be antitypically fulfilled by an Iraqi Baathist General completely defeating & occupying Israel & Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Dan. 11:15-17; in v. 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath").
 
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What I want to know from you is - what is your bible verse(s) that you are basing your view of there being a forthcoming ultra-orthodox Jewish messiah fulfilling a role in the end times?

I have asked you this question multiple times. How about an answer.

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Hello to everyone. Perhaps this has been posted before but I want to know what is the great strength of this theory and why it deserve to be taken seriously above all others

A muslim cannot fit into the career progression of the Antichrist.

little horn politician > false messiah king of Israel > man of sin > Antichrist beast
 
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Douggg said in post #11:

. . . what is your bible verse(s) that you are basing your view of there being a forthcoming ultra-orthodox Jewish messiah fulfilling a role in the end times?

Dan 9:26a, 11:22-23a.

Dan. 9:26's original Hebrew word (karath, H3772) translated as "cut off" can refer to when a peace treaty/covenant is "made" (Gen. 21:27). The 1st century fulfillment of Dan. 9:26a was at the Crucifixion, when the true Messiah (Jesus) made the New Covenant (Mt. 26:28, Heb. 9:15-17), which covenant was the 1st century fulfillment of the covenant in Dan. 9:27. The future fulfillment of Dan. 9:26a will be when the AC makes a peace treaty, which will be the future fulfillment of the covenant in Dan. 9:27 & the league in Dan. 11:23, with a future ultra-Orthodox Jewish (false) Messiah in Jerusalem, after he & his followers are defeated by the AC (Dan. 11:22-23). So the future fulfillment of Dan. 9:26a can refer to this false Messiah being "cut off" in the sense of being "covenanted", i.e. peace-treatied.

This treaty will allow him & his followers to keep a 3rd Jewish temple which they'll have built on the Temple Mount (after destroying the Muslim structures there), & to continue to perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of the temple for at least 7 years (Dan. 9:27a), so long as they give up the outer court of the temple (Rev. 11:2a) to the Muslims so the Muslims can rebuild the (by that time destroyed) Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount & resume worship there. After "cutting" this treaty (Dan. 9:26a), the AC could appear before the "many" (Dan. 9:27) nations gathered at the U.N. General Assembly, & "confirm" (Dan. 9:27) that for at least 7 years he'll keep this treaty with the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem, using this as purported proof to the world that he's, in his words, "a man of peace, and no Hitler".

Similarly, re: Dan. 9:27's "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease", that refers to Jesus' crucifixion, which caused the Old Covenant Mosaic law's animal sacrifices for sin to cease, as far as God was concerned (Heb. 10:8-10,18, Mt. 26:28). But the unbelieving Jews kept on offering those animal sacrifices anyway, for decades after the Crucifixion, until the 2nd temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Dan. 9:27's "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" also includes reference to when, in the future, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty of Dan. 9:26a/9:27a/11:23a, the AC will break the treaty, attack the 3rd temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the AC) in the holy place of the temple (Dan. 9:27c, 11:31, Mt. 24:15), & then sit himself in the temple & proclaim himself God (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36). Thus could begin the AC's future, literal 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Rev. 13:4-18, 2 Thes. 2:9).

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. . . the career progression of the Antichrist.

little horn politician > false messiah king of Israel > man of sin > Antichrist beast

The AC won't ever claim to be the Messiah/Christ, for his antichrist denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 Jn. 4:3) will disqualify him as a mortal-flesh human (under his mistaken Gnostic doctrine) from being Christ. Instead, the non-mortal-flesh Lucifer could be the false Christ (i.e. the "Lucifer" Christ, & not the "Jesus" Christ: 1 Jn. 2:22) during the AC's future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Rev. 13:4-18), which will be in the latter half of the future trib of Rev. chs. 6-18.

But none of this means there won't also be multiple false human Christs who'll arise during the trib (Mt. 24:24), including 1 who'll be a false ultra-Orthodox Jewish Christ/Messiah.
 
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Dan 9:26a, 11:22-23a.

Dan. 9:26's original Hebrew word (karath, H3772) translated as "cut off" can refer to when a peace treaty/covenant is "made" (Gen. 21:27). The 1st century fulfillment of Dan. 9:26a was at the Crucifixion, when the true Messiah (Jesus) made the New Covenant (Mt. 26:28, Heb. 9:15-17), which covenant was the 1st century fulfillment of the covenant in Dan. 9:27. The future fulfillment of Dan. 9:26a will be when the AC makes a peace treaty, which will be the future fulfillment of the covenant in Dan. 9:27 & the league in Dan. 11:23, with a future ultra-Orthodox Jewish (false) Messiah in Jerusalem, after he & his followers are defeated by the AC (Dan. 11:22-23). So the future fulfillment of Dan. 9:26a can refer to this false Messiah being "cut off" in the sense of being "covenanted", i.e. peace-treatied.

I understand that you are using Daniel 9:26a to reason that the Antichrist makes a peace treaty with a future ultra-Orhtodox Jewish (false) messiah.

But what I want to know from you is what bible verses are you using to base that there will be such a future ultra-Orthodox Jewish false messiah even present during that time?

The AC won't ever claim to be the Messiah/Christ, for his antichrist denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 Jn. 4:3) will disqualify him as a mortal-flesh human (under his mistaken Gnostic doctrine) from being Christ.
The Antichrist won't claim to be a Savior from our Sins messiah like Jesus. But he will be embraced (in grave error) by the Jews as their promised great King of Israel messiah, the messiah type the Jews are looking for.

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It has none, for the Antichrist (the AC) (the individual-man aspect of the beast), during his future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Rev. 13:5-18), won't support Islam (in its past & current form), insofar as Islam affirms that Jesus is the Christ (e.g. Koran 4:157, 4:171), whereas the AC will deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 Jn. 2:22). And Islam affirms that Christ is in the flesh, whereas the AC (like the Gnostics) will deny that Christ is in the flesh (2 Jn. 1:7). And Islam affirms that the God of the Bible (YHWH) is the true God, whereas the AC (like the Gnostics) will utterly revile YHWH (Rev. 13:6, Dan. 11:36). And Islam affirms that no man can be God, whereas the AC will say he's God (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36). And Islam forbids the worship of any images (Koran 21:52, 6:74), whereas the AC will have an image made of himself to be worshipped (Rev. 13:15). And Islam rejects Satan/Lucifer as being evil, whereas the AC will bring the world into the worship of Lucifer (the dragon) (Rev. 13:4, 12:9). So the AC's religion during his 3.5-year worldwide reign won't be Islam in its past & current form, but a blend of Luciferianism & Gnosticism.

Nonetheless, before Lucifer gives the AC power over all nations (Rev. 13:4-7), the AC & the man who'll be his False Prophet (Rev. 19:20) (who could be a future, apostate pope), could at 1st pretend to wholly support Islam in its current form (as well as Christianity), in order to start gaining a worldwide following.

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Also, the 7 heads of the beast in its empire aspect (Rev. 13:1, 17:3) represent 7 empires (Rev. 17:9-10): Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, & (possibly) Islam. The first 5 had fallen by the time of John in the 1st century AD: "five are fallen" (Rev. 17:10, 1:1b-2). The 6th (Rome) existed at the time of John: "one is" (Rev. 17:10). The 7th (possibly Islam) had not come by the time of John: "the other is not yet come" (Rev. 17:10). The empire of the Antichrist (the AC) (the individual-man aspect of the beast) will be a different, still-future, 8th head (Rev. 17:11), which will be a revival of 1 of the 5 empires which had fallen by the time of John (Rev. 17:8,10-11). It could be a revival of the empire of Babylon. The AC may claim to be Nebuchadnezzar returned, and so reinstitute the system that Nebuchadnezzar set up whereby everyone had to worship an image or be killed (Dan. 3, Rev. 13:15).

And the AC could make his world capital in the rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq), & build a main temple to himself (& Lucifer/Satan) there. For a temple to "wickedness" will be built in Shinar (Babylonia) (Zech. 5:8,11), & the AC is called "that Wicked" (2 Thes. 2:8). He may also claim to be Nimrod (the founder of Babylon: Gen. 10:8-10), & Hammurabi, & Asoka, et al. For the AC may claim he's had many different "past lives" as different human rulers.

First and fore most your post is very deceptive , Islam denies Jesus is the son of God which makes them an anti Christ type from from the bet go. Further of you look at end times eschatology , every single nation Christ comes and destroys is Islamic , this is no coincidence .

Then add to the fact that Satans throne is in Pergamum Turkey it adds more fuel to the fire. The statue of Daniel ties it all together the Legs which were Rome are why people try to sat the RCC but like the two legs Rome had two parts. Constantinople is what Daniel warned of . He seen the Islamic caliphate of the ottoman empire .

Islam and sharia law is the beast system , the beast that receives the deadly head wound but was healed is the ottoman caliphate and sharia law. Islam was united under this caliphate and held Jerusalem . After ww1 it was disbanded that was the wound but it will rise again and be healed . The caliphate will happen under the 12th imam Mahadi , uniting Islam and starting the slaughter of Christians .
 
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The caliphate will happen under the 12th imam Mahadi , uniting Islam and starting the slaughter of Christians .

It is a serious mistake to base an end times view on thinking that the Muslim prophecies have any truth to them. They don't.

Their prophecies, including that of the Mahdi, will just never play out. Islam will end when the Gog/Magog event takes place right before the 7 years of the Antichrist.


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Azadok, take another look at the horns and heads on the beast in Revelation 17, 12, 13. There is no wounded head in either Revelation 17 or 12. The wounded head does not appear except in Revelation 13, when there are 42 months left in the 7 years.

That eliminates the ottoman caliphate (which happened a long time ago) from being the wounded head - which is a king anyway.

The wounded head does not take place until right before the 42 months begin. In Revelation 12, the seven heads have crowns indicating the fulfillment of all 7 kings, including the future 7th king that is to rule but for a short space. The timing in Revelation 12 is with the full 7 years of the Antichrist's rule (12:6 +12:14 = the seven years) contained in that chapter.

Revelation 17 - status of the beast, 1st century
Revelation 12 - status of the beast, the beginning of the 7 years
Revelation 13 - status of the beast, with 42 months left in the 7 years.

The Antichrist will be the seventh (Julio Claudian family) king of the Roman Empire, the little horn politician that emerges out of Europe. Right after Gog/Magog, he will be embraced by the Jews as their king messiah. He confirms the covenant (the Mt. Sinai covenant) to begin the 7 years. Half way through that 7 year cycle, he sells out to Satan to become the man of sin, going into the temple and claims to be God. For that act, God has him killed (Ezekiel 28:1-10). That is why one of the heads in Revelation 13 appears as mortally wounded with 42 months left in the 7 years.

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Azadok2day said in post 15:

Islam denies Jesus is the son of God . . .

Even though Islam (in its current form) won't be the religion of the Antichrist (the AC) during his future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (see post 4), Islam could be, since the latter half of the 7th century, Rev. 17:10's 7th empire (the AC's empire will be a different, still-future, 8th empire: Rev.17:11). Also, because Islam claims the Koran came through the angel Gabriel, it's 1 fulfillment of Gal. 1:8-9 (cf. 2 Cor. 11:14).

Islam is an anti-gospel religion, for even though it affirms Jesus is the Christ (e.g. Koran 4:157, 5:17,75), it denies Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (Koran 9:30, 4:171, 5:72), & denies he died on the Cross for our sins (Koran 4:157) & rose from the dead on the 3rd day. In order to be saved, people have to believe the gospel that Jesus is both the Christ & the human/divine Son of God (Jn. 3:16,36, 1 Jn. 2:23), & that he died on the Cross for our sins & rose from the dead on the 3rd day (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Lk. 24:46-47, Mt. 20:19, 26:28).

The reason why it's necessary to believe these things in order to be saved is because it was only as the human/divine Son of God that Jesus' suffering during his Passion could satisfy God the Father's justice (Isa. 53:11), which requires an infinite amount of human suffering for sin (Mt. 25:46).

Jesus' suffering during his Passion was sufficient to forgive the sins of everyone (1 Jn. 2:2), for Jesus isn't just a human, but also God (Jn. 1:1,14, 10:30, 20:28): His soul is infinite, & so the suffering of his soul (Isa. 53:11) was infinite in amount, even though it wasn't infinite in duration. And so his suffering could satisfy God the Father's justice (Isa. 53:11). Because humans who aren't God have finite souls, for them to suffer an infinite amount for their sins, they must suffer over an infinite duration of time (Mt. 25:46, Rev. 14:10-11, Mk. 9:46). Every human has sinned (Rom. 3:23), except Jesus (Heb. 4:15b, 2 Cor. 5:21). But because Jesus suffered for sins (1 Pet. 3:18, Isa. 53:11) an infinite amount, when the elect repent from their sins & believe in Jesus' human/divine sacrifice, they can have their past sins forgiven (Rom. 3:25-26, Mt. 26:28), while God the Father's justice remains fully satisfied by Jesus' suffering for their sins (Isa. 53:11).

One way to help Muslims understand how Jesus can be God, from everlasting, is to question them about their understanding of the Muslim belief re: the Koran. For Islam says there was no time when the Koran didn't exist in a spiritual form in heaven, that it has always coexisted with Allah as his word. So Christians can show Muslims the Bible says before Jesus' incarnation, there was no time when he didn't exist in a spiritual form in heaven; he's always coexisted with God the Father as God the Word (Jn. 1:1,14).

Then add to the fact that Satans throne is in Pergamum . . .

In the 1st century AD, Satan's earthly throne was in the city of Pergamum (in what's now Turkey) (Rev. 2:12-13). Satan's earthly throne could be the Great Altar of Pergamum, also called the Pergamon Altar, which in ancient times was sometimes included as 1 of the 7 wonders of the world.

It may not be a coincidence that shortly after the Pergamon Altar was moved to Berlin around 1900 AD, both World Wars were started from Berlin, or that "the Nazi-era architect Albert Speer used the Pergamon Altar as the model for the Zeppelintribüne, 1934-37. The Führer's pulpit was in the center of the tribune" (Pergamon Altar - Wikipedia) (quote has been deleted for some reason). When the AC's given power over the whole earth (Rev. 13:7), his throne could be located in the center of the actual Pergamon Altar, which he could move from Berlin to a main temple to himself (& to Satan) in the literal, rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq). For a temple to "wickedness" will be built in Shinar (Babylonia) (Zech. 5:8,11), & the AC's called "that Wicked" (2 Thes. 2:8).
 
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Azadok2day said in post 15:

Islam and sharia law is the beast system . . .

It isn't (see post 4).

The caliphate will happen under the 12th imam Mahadi . . .

Re: the Muslim "Mahdi", during the Antichrist's (the AC's) rise to power -- i.e. before he declares himself God (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36) & begins his future, literal, 3.5-year worldwide reign (Rev. 13:4-18) -- if he greatly increases the military & political power of the Arab world, which is mostly Muslim, many Muslims could declare him to be the Mahdi. They could do this even though he won't fulfill most of the detailed Muslim prophecies re: the Mahdi. For it needs to be remembered the Muslim prophecies re: the Mahdi aren't scriptural, and so nothing requires they'll all be fulfilled. Also, the AC could reject the solely-human title of the "Mahdi", in his own mind, as being far beneath what he sees as his divinity. And before he declares himself to be God, if he rejects the title of "Mahdi" publicly, he could pretend to do this for humble reasons, saying something like: "Oh, no, I am not the great Mahdi, but a humble peacemaker who wants the best for all Arabs and for all mankind, no matter what religion they may presently follow", etc.

Also, the 1st person Muslims will declare to be the Mahdi may not even be the AC. For before the AC arises on the world stage (Dan. 11:21-45), an Iraqi Baathist General could lead an all-out war against Israel which will result in the total defeat & occupation of Israel (Dan. 11:15-17; in v. 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"). This Iraqi Baathist General could then be hailed by the Muslims worldwide as the Mahdi. But he will subsequently suffer a defeat (perhaps in Algeria) & then he'll mysteriously disappear from the scene (Dan. 11:18-19), so that the Muslims could say they were mistaken in thinking he was the Mahdi.

Similarly, years later, when the AC claims to be God (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36) & starts forcing the world to worship him (the individual-man aspect of the beast) & Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) (Rev. 13:4, 12:9) & an image of the AC (Rev. 13:15), if many Muslims had said he was the Mahdi, some of them could say they were mistaken. Also, these actions by the AC will result in a fatwa being issued against him by radical Muslim clerics, which fatwa Islamic terrorists could then try to carry out by waging all-out jihad against him. For they hold most strongly to Islam's tenets that no man can be God, that Lucifer/Satan is evil, & that no image can be worshipped. But the terrorist part of Islam (just as even the moderate part of Islam, & just as even public Christianity) will eventually be wiped out during the AC's future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign, when everyone (not in hiding) will be forced to either convert to the AC's religion of Gnostic Luciferianism or be killed (Rev. 13:4-18, 1 Jn. 2:22, 2 Jn. 1:7).

Also, even though Jews today don't go around killing people for religious reasons, by the time the AC declares himself to be God, some ultra-Orthodox Jews, led by a miracle-working false "Messiah", might also feel inspired to try to kill the AC for blasphemy, especially when he'll commit it within their own temple (2 Thes. 2:4), & will defile their temple (Dan. 11:31,36, Mt. 24:15). (The AC could also sit in other religions' holiest shrines & declare himself to be God there: e.g. in Islam's Kaaba in Mecca, in the Sikhs' Golden Temple in Amritsar, in Catholicism's St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, etc.)
 
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