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swanlake

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I feel that Islam is gravely misunderstood.

There is a hadith about a bedouin who came to the Prophet (saw) and asked him for the minimum requirements of Islam because that is all he was willing to follow. The Prophet (saw) told him about the 5 pillars and told him that if he could follow that he was following Islam. So following the 5 pillars is the most basic level. Beyond it each person does what they are capable of doing. So for those who want to follow only the basics, this is all they need to do. For those who want to understand the philosophy and the spirit of the message, they can only get that by studying it through the authentic channels.

Everyone has an opinion about religion, it is based on their understanding, their interpretation and their own level of faith and conviction. Each person can only do as much as they are capable of. Imposing one's beliefs on another does not make sense and it is not Islamic either. Judging another's faith and how they practice it is also not Islamic. If you are looking for answers and expect to find it from the TV or unislamic websites... you are going to get a million different versions and many of them incorrect. However, if you are looking at any faith then it is your own effort that will provide the answers from authentic sources or even ask a muslim person before reaching your own conclusion. Harmony and serenity comes from doing what one believes, from deep within; not from doing what others impose.

If what the unislamic sites wrote about Islam were true, there wouldnt have been billion muslims. It just doesnt make sense. Also If i expected another person of another faith to be convinced of Islam, they would have became muslim themselves. Therefore not everyone from different faith will agree otherwise we would have all converted to the religion we most admire.

The fact is I am quite happy, convinced, eat/live/die for Islam and no matter what anyone here says or do would convince me otherwise. I expect others to have same conviction of their faith. Therefore i really dont have a reason to bash other faiths and i dont expect mine to be bashed. One could say that they are doing me a favour by pointing out the flaws of my faith, and i would say that is fine, as long as it is done with respect and consideration to my faith. If we dont agree, then we should agree to disagree without sprouting rubbish about my faith.

Lets be considerate of each other's faiths - This goes out to all people of faiths including muslims. If someone disrespects your faith, leave him be, because it says more about the person (and his conviction of his faith) rather than your faith.
 
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swanlake.....I agree. Many people are misunderstood about Islam. They are just listening to the media and how the media potrays Islam and think that ALL Muslims are bad. I think those people that kill and hurt innocent people are just humans...they are not Muslims that listen and obey Allah's Word.
 
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Imposing one's beliefs on another does not make sense and it is not Islamic either.


Then why is Islamic history replete with this very thing?


If what the unislamic sites wrote about Islam were true, there wouldnt have been billion muslims.

That holds true for any religion.
 
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Islam... What is Islam? What is a Muslim?...


Many questions are thrown around here and there and the odd words are picked up in fragments.


A religion; a way of life. A Muslim is one who surrenders to the will of Allah and abides by Shar'iah (the laws set in Islam; Quranic Law). Muslims are part of the Human Race (as many have not yet realised). To be a Muslim; one cannot be a terrorist; as is contradicts the basic laws of Islam. This is simple enough to understand for those who take notice of it.


Muslims face hostility; left right and center. yet they are called hostile. Muslims are butchered; yet are are called the butchers. Muslims are terrorised; yet they are called terrorists.


When a nun cover's her body; she is modest; when a Muslim woman cover's her body, "Islam oppresses Women".

When a Jew keeps a beard; he's just practicing his religion; when a Muslim does, "he's an extremist".


WHY?
 
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Being a Ex-Muslim myself who know islam inside out, I can say that none over hear knew anything about Islam.

Islam if is the minority it is peaceful, when its the majority it is dangerous. Just go and find a quran and read with understanding. You'll be surprise that the word "Peaceful Religion" is a Propanganda
 
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Man,you really should cut out the caffeine.
 
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Ahmed Waheed said:
I'm just writing a little bit about Islam; that is what the thread is called

What you say is true....some people hate to hear the truth.

I never thought about the Nun thing. Nuns do cover themselves and its ok for a Nun to cover herself, but when a Muslim do it people freak out. I think everyone has a right to choose what they want to wear without being picked on.
 
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Please Exhibit your vase knowledge of Islam Oh wise one using the Qur'an to back you currently baseless claims!

I'm awaiting a unique response, not one that was copy/pasted off some website. If your knowledge is so extensive you should have no problem sharing a few points in support of your view. And please don't be shy with your use of the Qur'an, quote the verses which you feel best support your claims.


peace!
 
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I think the issue is that no nun is ever forced to cover herself, nor is she punished if she chooses not to, while women in many Muslim countries (I'm not saying all or most) are beaten or worse if they don't cover themselves.

How many times has it have to be told. There is no compulsion in religion. Women are not forced to cover up, besides Afghanistan (this is a very rare case), please feel free to give any examples.
 
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InnerPhyre said:
I think the issue is that no nun is ever forced to cover herself, nor is she punished if she chooses not to, while women in many Muslim countries (I'm not saying all or most) are beaten or worse if they don't cover themselves.

Muslims woman are not force to cover themselves. I know alot of Muslims who do it because its what they choose to do and follow their religion. They dont have to do it.

My cousin is a Muslim and she's a female and she is accepted in the Muslim community and she doesnt cover herself up like every other female in Morocco. She lives in Morocco and thats a Muslim town in Africa. Just thought I would let you know its not demanded and you wont get beaten for it. Just another one of those bad "rumors" that people spread about Muslims......
 
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Some Muslims say that it is mandatory and some say it isn't. The question is whether the Qu'ran tells them to. I have seen Muslims point out that the Qu'ran does and others say it does not. I personally have not searched the Qu'ran to find out which is true. Remember all Muslims are not strict followers of the Qu'ran as some Christians and Jews likewise are not strict to the scriptures; so varying views can be expected.

The overall impression that I get is that Muslim women are required, which would mean that they do not have a choice unless they are willing to face punishment for not obeying Allah. I do not think that a fundamentalist Muslim is willing to take that risk.
 
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The Hijab is mandatory upon a women. Yes, if women do not wear Hijab then they risk facing punishment from Allah (SWT), but they do not risk facing punishment from the community (men). The matter is between God (SWT) and women. Allah Hu Alim.
 
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ghazirizvi said:
The Hijab is mandatory upon a women. Yes, if women do not wear Hijab then they risk facing punishment from Allah (SWT), but they do not risk facing punishment from the community (men). The matter is between God (SWT) and women. Allah Hu Alim.

I've heard from some muslim men that it is their obligation to see that everyone around them is practicing Islam the way they think it should be followed.If they see someone doing something they view as wrong,they set them straight,including punishing the wrong doer so as not to contaminate the community.
 
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My family and I have moved around ALOT. And in all the muslim communities I have been in (third world and first world) I have never seen that attitude.
 
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ghazirizvi said:
The Hijab is mandatory upon a women. Yes, if women do not wear Hijab then they risk facing punishment from Allah (SWT), but they do not risk facing punishment from the community (men). The matter is between God (SWT) and women. Allah Hu Alim.

Theoretically, you're right. Practically however, some women are pressurized into wearing it from community and parents. I know a few young women who have migrated here from countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and no longer wear the Hijab, since they don't have the pressure any more. Some of them leave home with the hijab on and take it off later. Still others keep the hijab on, but lead a contradictory lifestyle. Such as drinking, smoking or dancing in nightclubs. There is a certain extent of pressure for some.
 
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