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Is touching yourself a sin? (2)

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Shiversblood

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You need to listen to God's Word, young man, and the small, yet powerful voice of the Holy Spirit, who says to you, "Come on, is this something that God is pleased to see you doing? You can live better than this."

That sounds more like your words than the words of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Don't be flip. The Holy Spirit is a gentle voice, not harsh. He speaks to me like that. I speaking to the poster earnestly. There is no need to mock.

I'm not mocking you. Not in any way. I'm questioning you. And sternly.

You be very careful how you propose to speak for the Holy Spirit. I say that resolutely, and I say it quite firmly.

You be more careful.
 
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Are you all trying to say that "lust" equals "sin"?

I'd be very careful then. Jesus himself "lusted". He lusted after his last passover meal. That's the word he used himself to describe it.

I'm just saying be careful with words.

When does the object one lust become one's master?

I didn't even recognize it myself, but I had and still have made my body my master, submitting myself to its every whim. I cannot be a servent of Christ as I serve my own body.

-Baldwin
 
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When does the object one lust become one's master?

I didn't even recognize it myself, but I had and still have made my body my master, submitting myself to its every whim. I cannot be a servent of Christ as I serve my own body.

-Baldwin

So what? What does that have to do with what I said?

Did you save yourself then by being smart enough to do the "sinners prayer" thing?

Oh man, you are definately screwed if you don't keep that up.
 
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So what? What does that have to do with what I said?

Did you save yourself then by being smart enough to do the "sinners prayer" thing?

Oh man, you are definately screwed if you don't keep that up.

What?

Christ has already saved me from my sins. He has already forgiven me for what I have done, what I am doing, and what I will do. I have been crucfied with Christ.

Yes, I would be "screwed" if it wern't for the blood of Christ.

I love you as he loves me,
-Baldwin
 
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"No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other..."
Matthew 6:24 (NLT)

Who are you serving, God or your Body?

Yes, I am a complete hypocrite (but, that dosn't change anything),
-Baldwin

I see.
 
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"(26) Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. (27) In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

(28) Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."
Romans 1:26-28

-Baldwin
 
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I'm not mocking you. Not in any way. I'm questioning you. And sternly.

You be very careful how you propose to speak for the Holy Spirit. I say that resolutely, and I say it quite firmly.

You be more careful.


I am careful. the Holy Spirit speaks to me all the time. He lives in me. I am obedient to Him and His call. My words here are from Him...they are a warning about continuing in self-gratification of such a debasing kind.

Those who proclaim Christ here and continue to defend their sinful ways are the ones that need to be careful about grieving the Holy Spirit. They are hurting Christ and dishonouring the cross.

Speak to them!
 
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The only reason people feel guilty after doing it is because Relgious people tell them that it is a sin and needs to be stopped.
What do you think about when you touch? Do you use any aids, visual, audio, etc.?
 
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