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Is This Racist

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Recently at my workplace the topic of intermarriage was discussed. Some of my co-workers who are all black and female stated that they would marry out of their race as long as the person loved them.

I was the only one to differ. I said that although I have nothing against white folks, Indian or Chinese or any other ethnic group, I would PREFER to marry a BLACK man. They accuse me of being racist. I live in Barbados where the population is 90% black. I lived in England before and have seen interracial couples. I was never attracted to Caucasian men. As a black woman this is what I would prefer. I also stated that if whites could not marry my ancestors in 1811 why would they want to be married to me in 2011. This my personal preference and I do not think that I have to apologise for saying this. If a white person or a person of any other ethnic group made the statement concerning blacks I would not be offended.
 
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I would PREFER to marry a BLACK man.

^not a racist stmt

I also stated that if whites could not marry my ancestors in 1811 why would they want to be married to me in 2011.

^now that rings of a a bit of racism to me :) or least least a bit of non-christian.

Even if a group of people were guilty of a race crime at some point in history one of the things that feeds the fire is that the other group can never seem to let it be generation specific. Just ask the Germans or the Japaneese...
 
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My position:

Let anyone marry whom they love without and limitations and boundaries!

Personally I would rather marry a caucausian female, but if I were to find a nice black woman and of course fall in love with her, i guess I would have no problem at all with it, there are of course some races I am not attracted to...
 
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Contended, no this is not racist. You have plainly stated it is your preference.

Now there are just many, many layers to this thing, but I have to go with ECR for simplicity. Youa re saying it is your preference, and not convincing others that your preference is the only right one.

My preference is also to marry a black man, but like JM, I don't believe I should miss my blessing trying to dictate to God the "package".




Recently at my workplace the topic of intermarriage was discussed. Some of my co-workers who are all black and female stated that they would marry out of their race as long as the person loved them.

SOTK, I cauthe meaning of your post. It is bordering on the line of racism. Many racist live in denial, by using........logical.....reasoning why/why not........not a condemnation of any kind as I believe you mean well, just a little food for thought.

I was the only one to differ. I said that although I have nothing against white folks, Indian or Chinese or any other ethnic group, I would PREFER to marry a BLACK man. They accuse me of being racist. I live in Barbados where the population is 90% black. I lived in England before and have seen interracial couples. I was never attracted to Caucasian men. As a black woman this is what I would prefer. I also stated that if whites could not marry my ancestors in 1811 why would they want to be married to me in 2011. This my personal preference and I do not think that I have to apologise for saying this. If a white person or a person of any other ethnic group made the statement concerning blacks I would not be offended.
 
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Recently at my workplace the topic of intermarriage was discussed. Some of my co-workers who are all black and female stated that they would marry out of their race as long as the person loved them.

I was the only one to differ. I said that although I have nothing against white folks, Indian or Chinese or any other ethnic group, I would PREFER to marry a BLACK man. They accuse me of being racist. I live in Barbados where the population is 90% black. I lived in England before and have seen interracial couples. I was never attracted to Caucasian men. As a black woman this is what I would prefer. I also stated that if whites could not marry my ancestors in 1811 why would they want to be married to me in 2011. This my personal preference and I do not think that I have to apologise for saying this. If a white person or a person of any other ethnic group made the statement concerning blacks I would not be offended.


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Let me say this we first need to stop saying the black race or white race. This is wrong there is only one race - the Human race. Next what happen in 1811 did not happen back in ancient history at all times. Men mixed and mingled but what I have a problem with is that Europeans do not teach this. It is shown that the ancient Jews look white and they were not they were olive brown and mixed with the different Afrikan ethnic groups. It was during the time of the Greeks and Roman that Europeans begin to mixed with some of the Jewish people. More so after Rome disperse them into Europe and a certain group of Germans adopted Judaism many years ago who also migrated into Europe and mixed with the Jews base on belief. This is why Jews from Europe look white today. However those who never left Palestine by the Romans do not look white at all and you do not know this because of racism. Because this is not known it has cause many people of different ethnic group to become bias. Many ethnic people want to look white by changing their hair structure, clothings and other features to be white. Now this is wrong but that is what you see and are taught! There is nothing wrong if you prefer to stay within your ethnic group or culture. Neither is it wrong for another that want to marry anyone from other ethnic culture or people.

I have a shock for many the Chinese are Afrikan American kin folks coming from the same tree or great grand daddy Ham. Properly they should be called Canaanites which is where they originated from. Afrikans originated from three brothers Cush (most of Afrika and India [the Dravidians]) the oldest son of Ham, Mizoram (Egypt and the Philistines) second oldest son, Punt (Sudan known as Somiland and South Afrika). Canaan (Ancient Phoenicians, Sodom and Gomorrah, ancient Jerusalem, Carthage, Ancient people of Turkey [Hittites], all of ancient Palestine once called Canaan, Chinese, Japan and all the Asian people and Sicily [who have sickle Cell Anemia like Afrikan people because they are mixed]. Gen 10 read it and you will learn a lot about all of mankind. If we were taught to appreciate where we come from and not one superior ethnic group who think they are Egyptians, Carthaginian and other ancient people then we all would be proud of who we are and appreciate our hair and features. It sad but the White man has made all ancient powerful empires or people to look like them instead of diverse or to have the right color then we would all be more respectful of each other!

Happy Sabbath,
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i agree with you and I have seen all the evidence about the table of nations. My point was and I make it again..my preference for marraiage is a black man. That was the issue in the discuss. Thanks for your imput

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I did state in my comment that there is nothing wrong for you to prefer a black man or another black woman prefer a man of any other ethnic of her choice. I commented also on more because of what you stated.

Happy Sabbath
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Not racist--but closed. Love is love, you never know when it will bite you! You could be dismissing the love of your life (what if he turns out to be chinese--or--ye gads!--white) Moses was married to an Ethiopian woman. Everywhere in the bible, ethiopian meant black. I had a racist brother, I used to tick him off by noting that--I could get him madder than a wet hen by saying there was black blood in the family--loved it. (We do have a picture of a relative that looks black to me--daddy said it was by marriage, not blood--well, it gets into the blood really soon after marriage!)
 
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Recently at my workplace the topic of intermarriage was discussed. Some of my co-workers who are all black and female stated that they would marry out of their race as long as the person loved them.

I was the only one to differ. I said that although I have nothing against white folks, Indian or Chinese or any other ethnic group, I would PREFER to marry a BLACK man. They accuse me of being racist. I live in Barbados where the population is 90% black. I lived in England before and have seen interracial couples. I was never attracted to Caucasian men. As a black woman this is what I would prefer. I also stated that if whites could not marry my ancestors in 1811 why would they want to be married to me in 2011. This my personal preference and I do not think that I have to apologise for saying this. If a white person or a person of any other ethnic group made the statement concerning blacks I would not be offended.

I read an interesting article yesterday

Ellen White's "Inspired" Bigotry, Racism, and Discrimination!

according to this article you are perfectly normal, and if you believe in EGWs inspiration as a prophet you might actually find out that you are doing Gods will, everything else would be bad. Not my opinion though...
 
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What EGW wrote was at a time when interracial marriage was actually illegal in many states!! She was very much for the salvation of the black race and wrote several scathing rebukes at whites who were not going into the south to help them. She defended the underground railroad. What she said about not marrying blacks was to avoid the trouble that the couple would have to endure and that it would draw attention away from the spreading of the message and she did not feel it was right to inflict such hardships on the children of these marriages. It had nothing to do with them being "beneath" the white man. She stated very plainly that God makes no difference between the races, when a black, chinese, Indian or wwhatever chooses to live for God his name is written in the book of life right along aside his white brothers. That's in selected Messages book 2--page 344. If she were alive today--she would have no such objection. And I've seen many interracial marriages in the church from the time I was a kid.
 
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What EGW wrote was at a time when interracial marriage was actually illegal in many states!! She was very much for the salvation of the black race and wrote several scathing rebukes at whites who were not going into the south to help them. She defended the underground railroad. What she said about not marrying blacks was to avoid the trouble that the couple would have to endure and that it would draw attention away from the spreading of the message and she did not feel it was right to inflict such hardships on the children of these marriages. It had nothing to do with them being "beneath" the white man. She stated very plainly that God makes no difference between the races, when a black, chinese, Indian or wwhatever chooses to live for God his name is written in the book of life right along aside his white brothers. That's in selected Messages book 2--page 344. If she were alive today--she would have no such objection. And I've seen many interracial marriages in the church from the time I was a kid.

just btw: Have you read that link that I posted?
 
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just btw what is the official SDA position nowadays? Has it adapted to world standards or is it still strictly EGW style, meaning looking down on things like that? cause I guess colored people can be leaders nowadays, so something must have changed?

When I was in college, I think this was in 1999, I was watching a video of an SDA Bible Prophecy Seminar. There was a Q&A session during which the presider was asked about interracial marriage. His response was that it was not in itself wrong, but that marrying somebody from a different culture could complicate the difficulties inherent in married life, and for that reason was not advisable.
 
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When I was in college, I think this was in 1999, I was watching a video of an SDA Bible Prophecy Seminar. There was a Q&A session during which the presider was asked about interracial marriage. His response was that it was not in itself wrong, but that marrying somebody from a different culture could complicate the difficulties inherent in married life, and for that reason was not advisable.

I tend to agree with that, but IMHO that would rather apply to muslim/christian marriage for example. I guess people who live in the same country and share the same faith (christian) but are of different races dont necessarily get too complicated, otherwise one could say that people of different church backgrounds might get a complicated life as well, (which might be actually more true than the other)
 
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