Is this Moral?

[ahman]

to the dude who didn't believe in God because he could not understand him:

so you know better than him eh?

here is an extract from a parable:

"the old man, (who had left his bag at the house) saw the son of the owner running after him and stopped on the bridge to wait for him, after he returned the bag, the old man picked him up and tossed him into the roaring currents and the boy drowned.

"what did you do that for?" I asked

The old man looked at me, and said "you said you would follow me all the way to my destination, it would be much more peacable if you did not question my actions."

"but you killed him...you killed an innocent boy, why should i keep following you?"

Now the old man started to glow and took the form of an angel "Listen boy, that child would in two years kill his mother, and in five, come after you and kill you, now stop questioning me and start getting along with me, i will see you again."

you must be pretty smart to be able to prove God wrong, im impressed, where did you go to school, ill have to send my kids there.

 

[Valhalla]

The burden of proof lies with the accuser.

 

[3mu180r]

your a miserable being and I will never follow you anywhere! AND you can't say I am attacking you directly because you just tried to say that I will be assimilated, I am just responding to as to why I would not be assimilated by you.

regards,

- 3mu180r

EDIT: I just looked up Borg and assimilated and this is what I found at probably the same site that atheists guy probably did and this is what it said about heaven:

The 'assimilated' (the saved) beings in the Borg do not die, nor do they feel pain or sorrow. They are, in effect, zombies who fully accept their condition. The inhabitants of heaven, also do not feel pain or sorrow (Rev. 21:4).

I don't know about you but my bible says nothing like that at all, and if that atheist dude went there to learn, guess what man, you were lied to..

 

[stray bullet]

Where does it say atheists and evolutionists too? In fact it should say:

kindofChristianforum.com

and the banner should say:

"Bringing together Christians and Atheists together in one big arena to battle!"

Notice that my post was not answered by any Christians, but 100% atheists up until now, once you have made your post!! AND this is suppost to be the Christian side!!!

Just to let you know, Christianforums consists of two halves, one for Christians only and one for everyone.
If you have questions about Christianforums policy, there are appropriate places to ask. It is generally not a good idea to go to this forum and debate the very existence of another forum.

If you would like to discuss origins theory with only other Christians, go to the Christians-only section and check out the Origins forum, there you can discuss it with only other Christians and even with only other creationists.
CF goes to great lengths to keep people happy and provides places they feel most comfortable in. If you only wish to discuss origins with creationists, you can do that!

 

[The Bellman]

This might be the most absurd thread I've ever seen. As someone else pointed out, science is perfectly moral when it's curing polio...but not when someone interprets its discoveries to be conflicting with their own opinion (and a minority opinion, at that) of their particular holy text.

You need to learn that (a) evolution is fact, (b) when interpreted literally, the Genesis creation account is wrong, and (c) the majority of the world's christians do not agree with your interpretation of Genesis or your opinion on science. As such, contesting that discussing science is wrong because it interferes with your minority viewpoint is rather empty.

 

[3mu180r]

this is about morals.. this forum is the place to post..

as for it being absurd that is coming from someone whom obviously opposes my ideaology, and I think that this false Christian website and it's athesim love is absurd, this is the most disgraceful Christian website I have ever seen.. it is you whom is absurd for defending it!

EDIT: even a MOD agreed with me in a PM!!!

 

[ahman]

i don't think that is the right way 3mu, like, i see where you're coming from, but attacking it isn't going to make it better.

be constructive and say why it's wrong and suggest ways to make it better. don't just say you think it sucks.

i think that atheists can have as much of an opinion as christians on christianity, and should be allowed to post here. if we do not respond to their posts or just attack them it shows a weakness in OUR convictions and that we are intimidated by a theological debate. we should welcome them, and debate with them, and there may be a couple more come to christ through what we can offer them.

this is in no way a forum limited to christians and for a good reason.

 

[3mu180r]

but they are not willing to listen. The are to hell bent on changing our minds. That isn't right man. I know this website is ran by good people but I am failing to see the logic behind sectioning the place up, it only sets us against one another. Why not let them enter into discussion without providing a place for them here?

I just can't see why it is a good thing to allow them the freedom to move. It is because of them that our children can't say the pledge of alligiance or read the constituion in their class rooms. It is them that ripped the 10 commandments from the concrete of Washington. They don't believe and wish for everyone to feel the same. That is wrong! Could you imagine them trying to explain this to Christ or GOD? Are we to just allow them to say GOD is dead and GOD is weaker than a fungus (penicillan).. that is absurd!

My point is that this website advertises Christian unity but even a MOD has agreed that the majority of actve users our atheist.. how is that right?

 

[ahman]

because atheists feel the need to criticise religion in order to justify their belief in nothing.

atheism is not a belief, it is a counter-belief and can only be justified by saying that something else is wrong. they attempt to prove their case by leaving it the only reasonable option left, and this means that they will try to find flaws in and exploit christianity in some cases.

they try to use things of this world to prove this or that and are very much centralised around facts. to me, atheism is a bleak and dreary outlook and has nothing going for it, but the reality is that that is just me.

and as much as we believe we are right, is as much as atheists believe they are right. luckily we have God on our side so let's just deal with it, answer their criticisms how we can, and let God be each person's judge.

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. and because it won't drink is no excuse to sit down and give up and call it a stupid horse. you deal and try something else.

 

[The Bellman]

3mu180r,

If this forum is soooo terrible because it allows atheists, why are you here? Why not go to a more restrictive forum which does not allow dissenting views, where christians can post just to each other? Obviously SOME christians (presumably the owner(s), at least) like the forum this way...if you don't, why stay?

By the way, I find some of your comments, such as "it's athesim love is absurd," "I just can't see why it is a good thing to allow [atheists] the freedom to move," and "Are we to just allow them to say..." truly frightening. I thought christians preached universal love? Apparently that doesn't apply to atheists. As for the other two quotes...thank goodness for freedom, a core value of the US. Strange that you apparently want to repress people's freedom, yet show the US flag...

People like you do a lot of damage to christianity, IMO, whether you are aware of it or not. Few people would like to see a christian theocracy; attitudes like yours reveal how badly non-christians would be likely to be treated under such.

 

[3mu180r]

your right; however, I am quite despondent to the amount of dissimulation in which takes place inside this website and it's forums. I must say that I am debilitated and compunctious due to the the structure of this website and it's biased views of atheists and there ideaology. Allowing such injudicious behaviour to take place amongst such a peacful breed of people as such are Christians, by ways of digging at our convictions in order to make us less peacful and content with what we know and feel is right and true.

regards,

- 3mu180r

 

[The Bellman]

your right; however, I am quite despondent to the amount of dissimulation in which takes place inside this website and it's forums. I must say that I am debilitated and compunctious due to the the structure of this website and it's biased views of atheists and there ideaology. Allowing such injudicious behaviour to take place amongst such a peacful breed of people as such are Christians, by ways of digging at our convictions in order to make us less peacful and content with what we know and feel is right and true.

regards,

- 3mu180r

What dissimulation? I've never noticed any.

If you're "debilitated and compunctious," why stay around?

What "biased views of atheists and their idealogy"? What "injudicious behaviour"?

I know of no evidence that christians are a particularly "peaceful breed." This is not to say that they aren't peaceful, but rather that they are no more peaceful than any other group of people (such as atheists).

 

[jlerollin]

i would like to say what the passage says is that it is immoral to throw a stumbling block in someones way. The theory of evolution wasnt cast by this site as someone said it is a place where we can help to take that stumbling block away through debate
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