Is this Mark Of The Beast technology?

[goldenrevelation]

This is called Pulse Wallet and it's a biometric scanner that scans your veins in order to pay for purchases, I can't post links but search it on Google.

My mom is convinced this is Mark Of The Beast technology as referred in the book of Revelations but I don't think that's it's an actual mark per-se, there is no RFID chip or hand implant. You have to use your right hand for this scanner!

Revelation 13:16

[BIBLE]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.[/BIBLE]

Could this be the technology known as the "mark"?

 

[xTx]

This is called Pulse Wallet and it's a biometric scanner that scans your veins in order to pay for purchases, I can't post links but search it on Google.

My mom is convinced this is Mark Of The Beast technology as referred in the book of Revelations but I don't think that's it's an actual mark per-se, there is no RFID chip or hand implant. You have to use your right hand for this scanner!

Revelation 13:16

[BIBLE]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.[/BIBLE]

Could this be the technology known as the "mark"?

Nope. The mark of the beast would be something oppressive.

 

[contango]

This is called Pulse Wallet and it's a biometric scanner that scans your veins in order to pay for purchases, I can't post links but search it on Google.

My mom is convinced this is Mark Of The Beast technology as referred in the book of Revelations but I don't think that's it's an actual mark per-se, there is no RFID chip or hand implant. You have to use your right hand for this scanner!

Revelation 13:16

[bible]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.[/bible]

Could this be the technology known as the "mark"?

If you can't buy or sell without it, and if you have the choice between taking the Pulse Wallet and execution, then probably.

 

[theFijian]

This is called Pulse Wallet and it's a biometric scanner that scans your veins in order to pay for purchases, I can't post links but search it on Google.

My mom is convinced this is Mark Of The Beast technology as referred in the book of Revelations but I don't think that's it's an actual mark per-se, there is no RFID chip or hand implant. You have to use your right hand for this scanner!

Revelation 13:16

[BIBLE]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.[/BIBLE]

Could this be the technology known as the "mark"?

There is no coercion, so no.

 

[Nickybobby]

Nope. The mark of the beast would be something oppressive.

If you can't buy or sell without it, and if you have the choice between taking the Pulse Wallet and execution, then probably.

There is no coercion, so no.

The question the OP posted wasn't whether or not this was the mark, but whether this was technology of the mark. I'd say its entirely possible that it is the technology. The technology will have to be developed before being implemented.

 

[theFijian]

The question the OP posted wasn't whether or not this was the mark, but whether this was technology of the mark. I'd say its entirely possible that it is the technology. The technology will have to be developed before being implemented.

No, he asked "is this the technology known as the beast". It's not possible that this is the technology as this reads your pulse, you are not given any mark. Therefore no 'mark of the beast'.

 

[random person]

Or it was Nero Caesar:

Revelation is defined as "to reveal, a disclosure," it does not mean to hide. Yet, that is what most people believe about the book of Revelation...that its meaning is hidden, and that we must resort to "private interpretation." However, the 'meaning' of the book of Revelation is interpreted and revealed by scripture itself.

Remember, the prophesies in this book were written to those living in the first century (Revelation 1:1,4,11). How could God bless his people all this time for keeping these prophesies if they did not understand them (Revelation 1:3; 22:7,9)? The fact is, they did understand them. These prophesies are not left to private interpretation, but the meaning is revealed to everyone, even those who were alive in the first century (Revelation 22:10).

2 Corinthians 4:3, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:"

What is a Mark?

A Mark (seal, sign, token, frontlet) is placed upon the forehead or hands, either as a sign of a curse or as a sign of redemption.

Genesis 4:15: God places a mark on the covenant breaking Cain, so nobody would kill him.

Exodus 28:36-38: Priests of God wore a gold plate upon their forehead, symbolizing the redeemed man.

Exodus 13:9,16, Deuteronomy 6:6,8; 11:18: A mark upon the forehead and hand was a symbol of total obedience to God’s Law.

Solomon 8:6: A seal upon the heart and arm is symbolic of a love for someone.

Isaiah 49:16: God has graven His people on the palms of His hands as a sign that he would not forget them.

Ezekiel 9:4: A mark upon the forehead was indicative of their allegiance to the Lord in the midst of abomination.

Revelation 13:16-17: The Beast places a mark on the hand or forehead of his followers also. This mark is his name (which represents ones character).

Revelation 14:9-11; 16:2; 19:20: Those who receive the mark of the Beast (worship something other than God) will be tormented. Which means...

Revelation 9:4: Those who do not have the seal of God in their forehead will be tormented. The Beast’s mark is contrasted to God’s mark!

Revelation 20:4: Those who do not receive the Beasts’ mark will be the keepers of God's commandments and have the testimony of Jesus.

Revelation 15:2: To keep the Word of God is to overcome and be victorious over the mark, or name, or character, of the Beast.

Revelation 3:12: The name of God will be written upon those who overcome.

Revelation 7:3; 14:1; 22:4: Where will the name of God be written? It will be sealed in their foreheads!

Revelation 19:13: What exactly is the name of God that’ll be written in their foreheads? It is The Word Of God! (See also John 1:1,14). In other words, Scripture, God's Word, will be in their hearts, minds, and souls!

READ THE REST HERE: The Mark Of The Beast

 

[random person]

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Nero died in the middle of the war on June 8th, 68 AD, and Vespasian went back to Rome to fight to become the new emperor. During this time the Christians fled Jerusalem because they heeded the warning of Matthew 24:16; the Jews thought the respite was a sign from God of victory and they gathered in Jerusalem in great numbers. The Romans came back and destroyed the city.

Revelation 17:3 tells us that the beast is red. The red color may be indicative of the bloodshed caused by the beast. But Suetonius writes of the legend associated with Nero's ancestral parentage, which explains why he had a red beard, which was very unusual in those times.

Revelation 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." The five "kings" were not ruling at the same time, for the text stated "five are fallen," meaning that five of those kings had come and gone. Then "one is," meaning the "king" who was ruling at the time Revelation was written. Here, in this verse, we have one of the clearest proofs for Nero being the beast. If we simply examine the list of Roman Emperors, we will be able to determine who the sixth king was. Flavius Josephus clearly points out that Julius Caesar was the first emperor of Rome, followed by Augustus; Tiberius; Caius (Caligula); Claudius; and the sixth emperor was…Nero (Antiquities, books 18 and 19), who assumed imperial power upon the death of the fifth emperor, Claudius, in October, A.D. 54. The matter is confirmed just a little later in the writings of Roman historians: Suetonius (Lives of the Twelve Caesars and Dio Cassius, Roman History 5). Nero reigned from 54AD to June of 68AD. John informs us that the seventh king was "not yet come." That would be Galba, who assumed power upon Nero's death in June, A.D. 68. But he was only to continue a "short space." As a matter of historical fact, his reign lasted but six months until January 15, A.D. 69.

What about the Beast's death-wound and his subsequent resurrection? Let us now consider John's revelation of the Beast arising from the dead (Revelation 13:3-4). At this point we need to reflect upon a most significant series of historical events of the A.D. 60s. First, with the death of Nero, the Roman Empire's founding family vanished from rule. Following the death of Nero was the extinction of the Julian line. Immediately, the Roman Empire was hurled into civil wars of horrible ferocity and dramatic proportions. These civil wars would strike everyone as being the very death throes of Rome, the Beast generically considered. Before the world's startled eyes, the seven-headed Beast (Rome) was toppling to its death as its sixth head (Nero) was mortally wounded with the sword.

Tacitus's detailed account of the ruin wreaked upon Rome almost equals in psychological horror, cultural devastation, and human carnage that which befell Jerusalem during the Jewish War, as recorded by Josephus and Tactius. The Roman civil wars were the first fruits of Nero's death. Josephus records that the destruction was so horrible, that the general Vespasian, "was not able to apply himself further in other wars when his native country was laid waste." Josephus agrees that during this time Rome was brought near to utter "ruin." He notes that "about this time it was that heavy calamities came about Rome on all sides." According to 4 Ezra 12:16-19, written around A.D. 100, the Empire was "in danger of falling": "In the midst of the time of that kingdom great struggles shall arise, and it shall be in danger of falling; nevertheless it shall not fall then, but shall regain its former power."

But what eventually occurred at the end of these death throes? Suetonius informs us that: "The empire, which for a long time had been unsettled and, as it were, drifting through the usurpation and violent death of three emperors, was at last taken in hand given stability by the Flavian family." Josephus sets forth this view of things when he writes: "So upon this confirmation of Vespasian's entire government, which was now settled, and upon the unexpected deliverance of the public affairs of the Romans from ruin, Vespasian turned his thoughts to what remained unsubdued in Judea." Thus, after a time of grievous civil wars, the Empire was revived by the ascending of Vespasian to the purple.

The point is not that Nero’s name is the primary identification of 666. The point is, instead, what the number meant to the seven churches. St. John’s Biblically informed readers will have already recognized many clear indications of the Beast’s identity. Nero arrived on the scene as the first great persecutor of the Church, the embodiment of the "666-ness" of the Empire, and – Lo and behold! – his very name spells out 666! It is significant that "all the earliest Christian writers on the Apocalypse, from Irenaeus down to Victorious of Pettau and Commodian in the fourth, and Andreas in the fifth, and St. Beatus in the eighth century, connect Nero, or some Roman emperor, with the Apocalyptic Beast ." There should be no reasonable doubt about this identification. St. John was writing to first-century Christians, warning them of things that were "shortly" to take place. They were engaged in the most crucial battle of history, against the Dragon and the evil Empire which he possessed. The purpose of the Revelation was to comfort the Church with the assurance that God was in control, so that even the awesome might of the Dragon and the Beast would not stand before the armies of Jesus Christ. Christ was wounded in His heel on Friday, the sixth day, the Day of the Beast – yet that is the day He crushed the Dragon’s head. At his most powerful, St. John says, the Beast is just a six, or a series of sixes; never a seven.

 

[Nickybobby]

No, he asked "is this the technology known as the beast". It's not possible that this is the technology as this reads your pulse, you are not given any mark. Therefore no 'mark of the beast'.

To be clear, it appears he asked both as the title of the thread is
"Is this Mark Of The Beast technology?"

Apparently I misunderstood the OP as well and didn't realize this was just a biometric scanner that uses veins instead of fingerprints for ID. If that's the case, then I would agree with you.

 

[eclipsenow]

Ha ha ha! I just read the title of this thread and then looked at the views: it had 668 views. Phew. Just missed. Can't be the mark of the beast then!

Seriously: the numbers in Revelation are Jewish symbolism for mankind: we were 'made' on the 6th day (in the original Genesis Hebrew poem, which is not meant to be read literally. Note: science and Christianity are not enemies on the whole evolution front!) and we were made to work 6 days of the week, and God's perfect rest comes in 7's. Also note the Hebrew repetition in threes. That is, in the OT when the angels cry "Holy, Holy, Holy!" three times, it's because they didn't use as many adjectives and superlatives. Instead of saying something was really awesomely good, they would say it was 'good good'. If it was unbelievably, surpassingly, the essence of something: three times.

God is holy, holy, holy. He is perfect. The symbolism in Revelation is that God is 7 (with Jesus having 7 eyes and 7 horns) and man is short of God's perfection: man is 6. Three times 6! That is, we're not up to scratch. Three times! Our philosophies and worldly wealth and security (of Revelation 13) are not up to scratch: if we 'wear this mark' (trust in worldly wealth and philosophy) we're not trusting in Christ.

In other words, don't go looking for the technology of the beast: people choose to trust in money or trust in God. Look at their lives instead. This has always been the case! John wrote Revelation 1, which explains John already shared in their tribulations. This is to all Christians in all times: not just to some special generation at the end. So please, if you want to debate this, jump across to the eschatology forums and PM me that you've started a new thread there.

Regards

 

[SilverBlade]

If you look at the MOTB line:

It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads

It would seem to me that you actually have to 'receive' something externally. A biometric reader that reads your vein pattern wouldn't qualify as you are 'born' with it, you didn't 'receive' it out of coercion, as it is a part of you.

I would think that the Mark is something you would have to knowingly receive from an external source, like an implant. You can't 'knowingly receive' a retina pattern, or a vein pattern, or a finger print, as you are born with it and have no control whether you get it or not.

 

[eclipsenow]

If you look at the MOTB line:

It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads

It would seem to me that you actually have to 'receive' something externally. A biometric reader that reads your vein pattern wouldn't qualify as you are 'born' with it, you didn't 'receive' it out of coercion, as it is a part of you.

I would think that the Mark is something you would have to knowingly receive from an external source, like an implant. You can't 'knowingly receive' a retina pattern, or a vein pattern, or a finger print, as you are born with it and have no control whether you get it or not.

It's metaphor for what people trust in: money or God? If you look at the very next chapter, God's children receive a mark as well. Do you think that's a technology?

 

[simplegospel1144]

This is called Pulse Wallet and it's a biometric scanner that scans your veins in order to pay for purchases, I can't post links but search it on Google.

My mom is convinced this is Mark Of The Beast technology as referred in the book of Revelations but I don't think that's it's an actual mark per-se, there is no RFID chip or hand implant. You have to use your right hand for this scanner!

Revelation 13:16

[bible]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.[/bible]

Could this be the technology known as the "mark"?

It is a part of the technology that will provide safety and well being for mankind. When the technology is ready, the masses will gladly get the chip.

The elderly and children's whereabouts will be known at the click of a button.

If your heart begins to fail, an ambulance will already be on the way via chip embedded med-tech warnings.

Taxes will automatically be taken out, as you are paid on Friday night as you walk out of your work passing by a scanner.

Mandatory GPS will practically empty our courts by mapping the victim and the accused at a precise time and place. Heart rate charts and other indicators in the chip will be compared, victim, accused, witnesses.


If you do not get the chip, you will be like a man trying to trade 10 pounds of potatoes for a pound of bacon at the grocery store. Won't happen.

The list of benefits will convince many and that even crime can be reduced to almost nil.

 

[eclipsenow]

It is a part of the technology that will provide safety and well being for mankind. When the technology is ready, the masses will gladly get the chip.

Is it OK to get the chip if it's on the left hand or back of my head or in my chest?

 

[simplegospel1144]

lol

 

[eclipsenow]

It is a part of the technology that will provide safety and well being for mankind. When the technology is ready, the masses will gladly get the chip.

The elderly and children's whereabouts will be known at the click of a button.

If your heart begins to fail, an ambulance will already be on the way via chip embedded med-tech warnings.

Taxes will automatically be taken out, as you are paid on Friday night as you walk out of your work passing by a scanner.

Mandatory GPS will practically empty our courts by mapping the victim and the accused at a precise time and place. Heart rate charts and other indicators in the chip will be compared, victim, accused, witnesses.


If you do not get the chip, you will be like a man trying to trade 10 pounds of potatoes for a pound of bacon at the grocery store. Won't happen.

The list of benefits will convince many and that even crime can be reduced to almost nil.

This all sounds great. I don't think God forbids us to use currency or money: the scholars I read say Rev 13 is about worldly philosophies and trusting in money, not God. The very next chapter uses a different metaphor showing how God has marked his own. Satan marks his, God mark's his. See the comparative metaphors? It's about what we trust in, and how that effects us. Revelation 13 is simply not predicting some chip implant technology or other because otherwise the whole book would be pretty much irrelevant to all Christians prior to that technology being developed. It's useless for 2000 years. I don't see John writing like that in Revelation 1, where he already shared in their tribulations, and demanded that his generation listen to his message and obey it.

 

[simplegospel1144]

"It's about what we trust in, and how that effects us."
Totally agree. And we in this generation will have a choice to get a physically implanted chip in our bodies or not. A study in the Greek reveals much more about these teachings I have found,

 

[eclipsenow]

"It's about what we trust in, and how that effects us."
Totally agree. And we in this generation will have a choice to get a physically implanted chip in our bodies or not. A study in the Greek reveals much more about these teachings I have found,

Nah. Just nah. It's about who we trust in, not what chip is in us. I don't think there's anything predictive in Revelation at all. It's descriptive: it describes the type of theological issues confronting all God's people from Jesus death and resurrection until his return.

If this chapter is actually a prophecy about our generation, how were John's generation to take it to heart and obey it? That's just ludicrous.

 

[simplegospel1144]

How did Daniel's generation perceive "knowledge and travel shall increase"? It was for the future just as Revelation is for the future. "Seal up the book until the end of days" means the meaning will be revealed at a later time.

 

[eclipsenow]

How did Daniel's generation perceive "knowledge and travel shall increase"? It was for the future just as Revelation is for the future. "Seal up the book until the end of days" means the meaning will be revealed at a later time.

And guess which book unsealed that scroll so that it could be obeyed in John's generation, as Chapter 1 says? The only thing 'future' in Revelation is the actual return of the Lord. In other words, Revelation is the gospel to suffering, persecuted Christians: and the gospel includes the wonderful promise that the Lord will return.