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The point of a hypothetical question is that you accept the premises of the question. Supposing you had to make this choice, would you kill the other family so that your family could survive, or would you just let everyone starve? To come up with ways to avoid making that choice is to change the problem, and to not answer the question.
If your on an island, I usually think..ok..ocean. You can't drink water from an ocean. You could do some nifty little tricks to get some water from when it rains, but that wouldn't be nearly enough (that you could get into something to drink) for two families.Sometimes the solution to a a problem involves "thinking outside the box."
A few pieces of fruit won't last anybody very long.
A few pieces of fruit, some fish, some fresh water and a heat supply will do wonders to solve a problem -- way beyond "do I kill your family or do you kill my family"? which I don't think is a viable solution to the problem, especially when there is a chance that both families might be saved.
At least, assuming we've made SOME moral progress in the last nine or ten thousand years as a species.
Killing is still a sin, no matter the circumstances.Thank you!
Why? I mean, I know killing is a sin. But..shouldn't a person have the right to survive?
Not trying to start a debate or anything, im seriously curious.
If your on an island, I usually think..ok..ocean. You can't drink water from an ocean. You could do some nifty little tricks to get some water from when it rains, but that wouldn't be nearly enough (that you could get into something to drink) for two families.
I liked the reply..."pray, wait for someone to starve, eat them" Works for me. Sept I think that would probably wind up being a kid...
You really think God would want them to just sit there and starve? Not sure I'd be willing to do that.Killing is still a sin, no matter the circumstances.
Because of the situation around it, it becomes more understandable in our eyes. But not in God's.
When God made the 10 commandments, He didn't add fine print with it, or what-if-and-maybe loopholes. It's still a sin.
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there are certain people who i would gladly sacrifice myself for (at least hypothetically, and given that this is a hypothetical situation...) and this includes not only my own family, friends, and people i love, but all children and vulnerable people. some people i wouldn't sacrifice myself for, and they are those who are not willing to sacrifice themselves for those they love & the vulnerable members of our society.You really think God would want them to just sit there and starve? Not sure I'd be willing to do that.
Ever had your head dunked under water? And you started to freak? I have. It scares the crap out of you. Why? A sense of uncontrol, a sense of "crap, I could die". Sure, you know that the person dunking you wont "kill" you, because they're probably a friend. But human nature just makes us react in such a way to where we can't help but flip.
(or wait...is this just me???)
I think the same thing would go for any situation where you thought you could die. I heard so many say they'd sacrifice themselves. I don't believe that. And if they really did, I would definitely be shocked at their great courage (or whatever wonderful word would fit there best) for being willing to sacrifice themselves for the lives of another.
I personally think after the realization of "oh crap, if i dont eat soon, I'm going to die" would mentally screw me up enough to where I'd do anything to survive.
Just a quick question:
If two families are on an island, that has 1 fruit tree (The only sourse of food), that can only support one family (if they try to share it between 2, people WILL starve), is it a sin to try to kill members of the other family so your can survive?
Say your the head of one family, what should you do (With respect to what God would want you to do)?
*stole the question from yasic, a non christian...but the question still comes from me*
Thank you!
Why? I mean, I know killing is a sin. But..shouldn't a person have the right to survive?
Not trying to start a debate or anything, im seriously curious.
Actually, in a biblical context there is a difference between war or murder...REAL question is - is killing off the toher family an act of war (and therefore justifiable) or an act of murder.Killing is still a sin, no matter the circumstances.
Because of the situation around it, it becomes more understandable in our eyes. But not in God's.
When God made the 10 commandments, He didn't add fine print with it, or what-if-and-maybe loopholes. It's still a sin.
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I see what you're saying.Are we considering that the 2 opposing families are like seperate countries? if that is the context - ultimately, that on a desert island isolated from any oither sources of food, 2 families would be COULD be considered separate countries. If so, there my be Biblical context for letting the 2 sides fight it out and letting the strong side survive (or which ever God favors wins). That being said, I would probably choose to do without myself so that others can survive ( assuming that the males in the other camp would agree to the same and my family wouldn't be killed off after I was gone.) if I suspected that the other side could not be trusted to fast (even to death) as I would, then i would apply the principle that it is a justifyable war.
What about the children of that family? Why don't you just eat the children! LOLJust a quick question:
If two families are on an island, that has 1 fruit tree (The only sourse of food), that can only support one family (if they try to share it between 2, people WILL starve), is it a sin to try to kill members of the other family so your can survive?
Say your the head of one family, what should you do (With respect to what God would want you to do)?
*stole the question from yasic, a non christian...but the question still comes from me*
Just a quick question:
If two families are on an island, that has 1 fruit tree (The only sourse of food), that can only support one family (if they try to share it between 2, people WILL starve), is it a sin to try to kill members of the other family so your can survive?
Say your the head of one family, what should you do (With respect to what God would want you to do)?
*stole the question from yasic, a non christian...but the question still comes from me*
I see what you're saying.
I don't think the families would have any connection to each other, no. Different countries? Uhh...I dont know. But I'm thinking along the terms of they don't know each other, but get stuck on the island together.
I wasn't doubting you light dancer, I would have quoted your post if I was talking to you or about your post directlyI've been in a disaster Nadiine. So I answered truthfully. We shared until help arrived. The younger ones abstained from water in order to give it to the elderly and the children.
I know I would share because I've been in that situation.
Great answerI think it's easy to give answers when we aren't the ones literally starving lol.
Honestly, until I'm IN a crisis situation, I dont know what I'd do or not do... alot depends on other circumstances too.
What if these other people we're supposed to feed (so we starve to death ourselves) are rude & obnoxious & treat us like garbage or do nasty stuff...
There's so many variables to any given situation.
It's easy to sit behind our picket fences & say what we'd do becuz "God tells us to", but until I'm in the situation, I'm going to say, I'd HOPE I did the right thing.
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