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[Sammy-San]

https://thomrainer.com/2015/02/fifteen-reasons-churches-less-evangelistic-today/

1. Our churches have an ineffective evangelistic strategy of “you come” rather than “we go.”
2. 1. 1. Churches have lost their focus on making disciples who will thus be equipped and motivated to reach the lost.
      Our churches have too many activities; they are too busy to do the things that really matter.
      
      

 

[Doug Melven]

https://thomrainer.com/2015/02/fifteen-reasons-churches-less-evangelistic-today/

1. Our churches have an ineffective evangelistic strategy of “you come” rather than “we go.”
2. 1. 1. Churches have lost their focus on making disciples who will thus be equipped and motivated to reach the lost.
      Our churches have too many activities; they are too busy to do the things that really matter.
      

We just started this series in my church.
https://www.studygateway.com/watch/becoming-a-contagious-christian

Our new Pastor feels much as you do.
We still do the activities, but all our activities have the goal of getting people from the community into the church.

 

[bcbsr]

https://thomrainer.com/2015/02/fifteen-reasons-churches-less-evangelistic-today/

1. Our churches have an ineffective evangelistic strategy of “you come” rather than “we go.”
2. 1. 1. Churches have lost their focus on making disciples who will thus be equipped and motivated to reach the lost.
      Our churches have too many activities; they are too busy to do the things that really matter.
      

The thing with evangelism, or ministry in general, is that people tend to take on the same style as when they became a Christian. Institutionalized Christians tend to view evangelism as inviting people to church where then pastor then preaches the gospel to them, rather than they themselves going out to preach the gospel. And discipleship becomes simply an institutional church program rather than the model Jesus set, which was relational and personal, and the idea of you personally discipling a hand-full of individuals.

 

[Sammy-San]

The thing with evangelism, or ministry in general, is that people tend to take on the same style as when they became a Christian. Institutionalized Christians tend to view evangelism as inviting people to church where then pastor then preaches the gospel to them, rather than they themselves going out to preach the gospel. And discipleship becomes simply an institutional church program rather than the model Jesus set, which was relational and personal, and the idea of you personally discipling a hand-full of individuals.

Proof?

 

[Sammy-San]

We just started this series in my church.
https://www.studygateway.com/watch/becoming-a-contagious-christian

Our new Pastor feels much as you do.
We still do the activities, but all our activities have the goal of getting people from the community into the church.

https://ministrytodaymag.com/outreach/evangelism/22392-9-reasons-christians-don-t-evangelize

9. We don't care about non-believers. I don't think we can avoid this possibility. If we truly believe that people need a personal relationship with Jesus, but we still keep that message to ourselves, how can we conclude otherwise?

https://www.josh.org/7-reasons-america-not-reached-christ/
2. We have lost our sense of urgency.
Take hell out of the equation and evangelism seems like a nice, but not necessary, activity. Put hell back in and suddenly everything changes. Suddenly souls are at stake and time is a wastin’. We start to reach out like there is no tomorrow…because there may not be for those who don’t know Jesus.

And simmer down my dear Reformed friends. It was the great reformer himself (aka “The Apostle Paul”) who asked “how will they hear without a preacher?” right in the middle of his longest explanation of the doctrine of election (Romans 9-11.) It is possible to believe in election and to be motivated to “snatch others from the fire and save them” (Jude 23.) It happens when we stop trying to connect dots that were never meant to be connected. It happens when we stop trying to reconcile God’s sovereignty and our responsibility. It happens when we choose to live in the tension and share the gospel like lost souls depend on it.

To simplify the message of both it means it doesnt occur to us.

 

[bcbsr]

Proof?

decades of observation.

 

[Chinchilla]

https://thomrainer.com/2015/02/fifteen-reasons-churches-less-evangelistic-today/

1. Our churches have an ineffective evangelistic strategy of “you come” rather than “we go.”
2. 1. 1. Churches have lost their focus on making disciples who will thus be equipped and motivated to reach the lost.
      Our churches have too many activities; they are too busy to do the things that really matter.
      

The "you come" strategy is so popular . All churches near me ( Baptist , Catholic does not matter which one ) prefer the You Come strategy which is sad . The ones which are doing something are Jehova witnesses only sadly .

 

[Sammy-San]

The "you come" strategy is so popular . All churches near me ( Baptist , Catholic does not matter which one ) prefer the You Come strategy which is sad . The ones which are doing something are Jehova witnesses only sadly .

What does we go mean-some churches encourage door to door evangelism?

 

[Sammy-San]

The "you come" strategy is so popular . All churches near me ( Baptist , Catholic does not matter which one ) prefer the You Come strategy which is sad . The ones which are doing something are Jehova witnesses only sadly .

My youth group has done evangelism storytelling.

 

[Sammy-San]

The thing with evangelism, or ministry in general, is that people tend to take on the same style as when they became a Christian. Institutionalized Christians tend to view evangelism as inviting people to church where then pastor then preaches the gospel to them, rather than they themselves going out to preach the gospel. And discipleship becomes simply an institutional church program rather than the model Jesus set, which was relational and personal, and the idea of you personally discipling a hand-full of individuals.

What does discipleship have to do with christians not evangelizing more? To me its a simple issue-it just doesnt interest and occur to us, there are limitations to it.

 

[bcbsr]

What does discipleship have to do with christians not evangelizing more? To me its a simple issue-it just doesnt interest and occur to us, there are limitations to it.

Discipling Christians to evangelize is a fundamental part of discipleship.

 

[Sammy-San]

Discipling Christians to evangelize is a fundamental part of discipleship.

Why do you think Christianity hasnt spread to most people in japan and vietnam for so many years-churches not focusing on evangelism?

 

[Hazelelponi]

The "you come" strategy is so popular . All churches near me ( Baptist , Catholic does not matter which one ) prefer the You Come strategy which is sad . The ones which are doing something are Jehova witnesses only sadly .

I wouldn't be giving Jehovah's witnesses any credit if i were you..

Some came to my door once and since it was women i came to the door uncovered. So they wanted to speak with me concerning words n the Bible and asked me to get my Bible so they could show me..

It was a good idea but I didn't have one so i told them so.. then confused as to what to do next they asked if I wanted one which I thought was a good idea to have a Bible and read what it said since I'd just started speaking to a different Christian about Jesus..

So they said they would come back with a Bible but never came back... I didn't get a Bible to read until after I was saved as a result, when I had money to buy one.

My husband says all Jehovah's witnesses know how to do is fight with Christians, they don't know how to share the Gospel..

 

[Sammy-San]

I wouldn't be giving Jehovah's witnesses any credit if i were you..

Some came to my door once and since it was women i came to the door uncovered. So they wanted to speak with me concerning words n the Bible and asked me to get my Bible so they could show me..

It was a good idea but I didn't have one so i told them so.. then confused as to what to do next they asked if I wanted one which I thought was a good idea to have a Bible and read what it said since I'd just started speaking to a different Christian about Jesus..

So they said they would come back with a Bible but never came back... I didn't get a Bible to read until after I was saved as a result, when I had money to buy one.

My husband says all Jehovah's witnesses know how to do is fight with Christians, they don't know how to share the Gospel..

Why do you think the workers are few?

 

[Doug Melven]

What does discipleship have to do with christians not evangelizing more? To me its a simple issue-it just doesnt interest and occur to us, there are limitations to it.

The Christians I know who don't share the Gospel, they don't share out of fear.
Fear of rejection, of not knowing enough Scripture, of messing up the presentation of the Gospel, of.....
It is not that people don't care, most of the time they just feel inadequate.


Part of discipleship is showing them how to share there faith.
2 Timothy 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

I wouldn't be giving Jehovah's witnesses any credit if i were you..

The only credit given to them is that they do go out more than others.
I like it when they come to my door because I can use up a lot of there time.

 

[Sammy-San]

The Christians I know who don't share the Gospel, they don't share out of fear.
Fear of rejection, of not knowing enough Scripture, of messing up the presentation of the Gospel, of.....
It is not that people don't care, most of the time they just feel inadequate.


Part of discipleship is showing them how to share there faith.
2 Timothy 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


The only credit given to them is that they do go out more than others.
I like it when they come to my door because I can use up a lot of there time.

Do you think its about political correctness or fear of the unknown or fear of rejection?

 

[Hazelelponi]

Why do you think the workers are few?

I wasn't speaking to workers spreading the Gospel.. I was speaking to something else entirely..

As to why workers might be few (to which I would agree) is because people are too busy infighting over the most ridiculous of things to take the time to share their testimony with those who are closest to them that are lost.

I do believe evangelism is important, but its important to show Christ to those closest to you while you speak of Christ, and not preach at people but share your own personal testimony..

Your own testimony is the most powerful proof of God that exists.. yet who shares it? Everyone is so afraid of what "people will think" that they aren't willing to share personal testimony..

Revelation 12:10-11 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.

We have a testimony of Christ, a living testimony, how salvation affected our lives, what salvation meant to us personally.. How we came to know God.

Personal testimony is powerful.. yet people are too afraid to share it because of what others might think. I think western churches are anemic for this reason... too busy worrying about politics and social justice to worry about what God might like them to share with that neighbor they never introduced themselves to.

 

[Hazelelponi]

The Christians I know who don't share the Gospel, they don't share out of fear.
Fear of rejection, of not knowing enough Scripture, of messing up the presentation of the Gospel, of.....
It is not that people don't care, most of the time they just feel inadequate.


Part of discipleship is showing them how to share there faith.
2 Timothy 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


The only credit given to them is that they do go out more than others.
I like it when they come to my door because I can use up a lot of there time.

I agree fear is the reason.. but it's not a worthy reason. What do most have to fear here? That someone won't talk to them anymore? Who cares! There's no prison for talking about your faith here, no death or stoning..

I think we should consider the persecuted church more, and realize we have a gift.. we can bring someone a loaf of homemade bread and share the Gospel kindly with that neighbor and the worst that will happen is they will politely say they are busy and then avoid a further visit with you.. it's nothing all things considered.

And what if they are ready to hear the Gospel of Christ?

 

[Doug Melven]

Do you think its about political correctness or fear of the unknown or fear of rejection?

Trying to be politically correct. Yes, people don't witness because of this.
Fear of rejection. Yes, people don't witness because of this.
Fear of the unknown. Yes, people don't witness because of this.
Fear of _______ Yes, people don't witness because of this.

 

[com7fy8]

I do believe evangelism is important, but its important to show Christ to those closest to you while you speak of Christ, and not preach at people but share your own personal testimony..

Example "without a word" can work > for example, 1 Peter 3:1-4.

@Sammy-San > We do need personal ministering, in order to bring lost people to become our family in Jesus. And we need to take care of the ones who have trusted in Jesus (Ephesians 1:12), so we grow in the image of Jesus (Romans 8:29). Peter reached lost people but also Jesus told Peter to feed the sheep.