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Is there really a 1000 year reign ?

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Hi Ross,

Excellent thread and points

As you so eloquently pointed out...

Satan was bound and cast into the 'bottomless pit' that he should 'deceive" the nations no more for a 1000 years. When the 1000 years are 'fulfilled/ended' satan shall be loosed for a 'little season," (Rev.20:1-3,7), at the fifth trumpet (Rev.9:1,11) during the great tribulation to overcome and kill the two witnesses(Rev.11:7).

Satan/Wicked was destroyed at the coming (parousia) of the Lord (2 Th.2:8) and the Lord shall reign forever (Rev.11:15).


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I could never get any Scriptural evidence of the "earth" ending twice so I am with you on that revelation being One Complete event, not 2 "seperate" ones. At least from just reading the Scriptures and nothing outside of it. Thoughts?

Reve 12:12 because of this be glad, ye heavens, and those in them who do tabernacle; woe to those inhabiting the land and the sea, because the Devil did go down unto you, having great wrath, having known that he hath little time.'

Reve 20: 10 and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where [are] the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night--to the ages of the ages.

http://www.awitness.org/lostmess/daniel.html

This would, of course, require ending the world twice (once to Revive the Romans and thus salvage chapter 9, and a second go at it to revive the Greeks and salvage chapter 12. Whether or not we can all tolerate suffering through two ends of the world is a good question, but this would be required to salvage the doctrine of 'Biblical inerrancy.'
 
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Nope haft to disagree with that, it is the ac that comes out of the botomless pit at the 5th trumpet, not satin.
 
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Hi LittleLambof Jesus,

Thanks for the response, you make an interesting point!

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Here is why the premillianial position is correct

Gen 15v18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrate

this prophacy has yet to be fullfilled. It will be fullfilled during the mellianial kingdom..
 
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Hi inhisdebt,

That prophecy was fulfilled by Jesus at his first coming...

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made, He saith NOT, And to seeds, as of many; but as of ONE, And to thy seed, which 'is' Christ.

(i.e. the promise made to Abraham pertained to Jesus the 'seed,' NOT to seed-s Israel).

17 And this I say, that 'the covenant' that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.


Do you maintain the fulfillment of that prophecy occur during the millennial kingdom?


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Note the borders of israel pictured here indicate a literal kingdom on earth not a figurative one, thy seed is plural not singular, This prophacy will be fullfilled by the literal 1000 year reign of christ on earth, it has not been fullfilled yet.
 
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Note the borders of israel pictured here indicate a literal kingdom on earth not a figurative one, thy seed is plural not singular, This prophacy will be fullfilled by the literal 1000 year reign of christ on earth, it has not been fullfilled yet.
 
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inhisdebt said:
Note the borders of israel pictured here indicate a literal kingdom on earth not a figurative one, thy seed is plural not singular, This prophacy will be fullfilled by the literal 1000 year reign of christ on earth, it has not been fullfilled yet.
I believe the jews and muslims will disagree on this. Besides, if Zeph is an endtime prophecy, what is everyone going to eat and where will animals come from for the "supposed" sacrifices during the "supposed" 1000yr reign of Christ?
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[/SIZE]Zeph 1:2 " I will utterly consume everything From the face of the land," Says the LORD; 3 "I will consume man and beast; I will consume the birds of the heavens, The fish of the sea, And the stumbling blocks along with the wicked. I will cut off man from the face of the land," Says the LORD.
 
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The jews and muslims that do not follow christ will be destroyed, christ said that he will plead for his peaple ,with a sword and close observation of the many OT referances to the day of the lord will show that the times of restitution will begin immediatly after the destruction.
 
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Have a blessed day: MbiaJc
 
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MbiaJc said:
Have a blessed day: MbiaJc


Thanks, MbiaJc!


I don't believe a man can live in the bottomless pit for a thousand years (ruling out the man ac), however 'fallen angels' the dragon, old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan could (Rev.20:1-3,9).

You said the beast from the bottomless pit was an ancient king.

Yes, over fallen angels/demon spirits...

Revelation 9:10 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is
A-bad'-don, but in the Greek tongue hath his name A-pol'-ly-on.


Wishing you a blessed day!

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