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[MoreCoffee]

Love does not "exist", it is a mental concept, feelings do not "exist" anymore than ideas or gods "exist".
If you don't understand why not look up the word "exist" in a dictionary?

Concepts do not exist? In the same way, you say, as God doesn't. So if concepts do not exist why are you typing words that represent them?

 

[sandybay]

Concepts do not exist?

They "exist" only in our minds, as far as "reality" is concerned no concepts do not "exist".

 

[sandybay]

In the same way, you say, as God doesn't. So if concepts do not exist why are you typing words that represent them?

I must do that because they do not "exist" outside of my brain, how else would you know what I am thinking?
can you read minds?

 

[MoreCoffee]

They "exist" only in our minds, as far as "reality" is concerned no concepts do not "exist".

Only in the mind eh? So scientific theories, which are conceptual constructs intended to explain observations, do not exist either? So why all the arguments about whose concepts are "better"? Why all the opposition to theism? It is, according to what you've written, just as non-existent as science theories.

I must do that because they do not "exist" outside of my brain, how else would you know what I am thinking?
can you read minds?

What value is there in non-existent concepts anyway? Why do you care about communicating your brain state to anybody else? It can't really be reproduced in anybody else's brain can it? One cannot copy brain state from one place to another using symbols that are intended to convey non-existent concepts, right?

 

[stevevw]

Why is logic true?

If love is real how much does it weigh? Because surely every material thing has a mass and could, at least in theory, be weighed.

I know that love can weigh heavily on someones heart. Love is a very powerful thing and can change the course of history. It can make a person sacrifice their life and can make them move mountains for another. The opposite of love is also powerful and can destroy a nation and take a life. So for something that doesn't have any structure and mass they sure are powerful.

 

[stevevw]

No the brain tissue would be dead by than and I don't think it would replicate the electrochemical signals the brain uses.

Actually according to some latest tests on near death experiences, it seems the brain or something in us can go on for a bit when the heart and brain have stopped working. People who have come back to life have reported being aware of certain things. Some describing exactly what was happening in the operating theater when they were suppose to be dead.

First hint of 'life after death' in biggest ever scientific study - Telegraph

 

[MoreCoffee]

I know that love can weigh heavily on someones heart. Love is a very powerful thing and can change the course of history. It can make a person sacrifice their life and can make them move mountains for another. The opposite of love is also powerful and can destroy a nation and take a life. So for something that doesn't have any structure and mass they sure are powerful.

Yes, love and hate are very powerful. But they have no mass. The same is true of concepts which are also very powerful and also without mass. How did these things evolve then? If they did evolve.

 

[sandybay]

Only in the mind eh? So scientific theories, which are conceptual constructs intended to explain observations, do not exist either? So why all the arguments about whose concepts are "better"? Why all the opposition to theism? It is, according to what you've written, just as non-existent as science theories.

Of course that's all religions and scientific theories are, they are all from the imaginations of men and women,
what did you think they were?

Gods talking to men, men talking to Gods, men seeing Gods, Gods guiding men's hands, and every fantastic or idiotic theory ever devised all came from the minds of men and women.

I honestly think you are beginning to get it.

 

[stevevw]

Yes, love and hate are very powerful. But they have no mass. The same is true of concepts which are also very powerful and also without mass. How did these things evolve then? If they did evolve.

Thats a hard one to answer. To an evolutionists I would imagine love is something that is hard to fit in with the theory. Some biologists will say that we are just a bunch of organs and our brains are just chemicals and electro pulses that will trigger certain reactions in our body. I would imagine because is such a strong emotion and a big driving force in our lives it would have to be explained in terms of survival. Yet many of the things that will help humans survive will be against what love represents like survival of the fittest. Not everything can be explained in terms of biology and as you said mass. Even quantum physics is showing us that there is more to life than what we see.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I think that since logic is true and love has no weight the idea that there exists a God who cannot be detected by any human sense or any material instrument, unless he reveals himself, ought not to be problematic. Yet for various reasons debaters in Christians forums like to say it is problematic. I don't believe them.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What color is love?

Love is ....reddish pink. Yeah, that's it, reddish pink.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Love is ....reddish pink. Yeah, that's it, reddish pink.

Isn't everything a shade of pink?

 

[TillICollapse]

I think that since logic is true and love has no weight the idea that there exists a God who cannot be detected by any human sense or any material instrument, unless he reveals himself, ought not to be problematic. Yet for various reasons debaters in Christians forums like to say it is problematic. I don't believe them.

Define what you mean by problematic.

Isn't everything a shade of pink?

My favorite color is pink

 

[sandybay]

I think that since logic is true and love has no weight the idea that there exists a God who cannot be detected by any human sense or any material instrument, unless he reveals himself, ought not to be problematic. Yet for various reasons debaters in Christians forums like to say it is problematic. I don't believe them.

You are right of course, if not detecting anything by any human sense or any material instrument is not problematic why stop at Gods? we are all free to let our imaginations run riot and imagine anything we like, how do you feel about that?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Define what you mean by problematic.

Why, it is in all the standard dictionaries. Isn't the standard definition okay?

My favorite color is pink

 

[TillICollapse]

Why, it is in all the standard dictionaries. Isn't the standard definition okay?

It's common for people to ascribe their own meaning to words, or to use them in a way that may be different from others. Such as the term "faith" in Christianity, for example. Which is why I asked what you mean by problematic. So I can pick any standard dictionary and definition therein that I wish ?

Yes it actually is my favorite color Always has been

 

[OldWiseGuy]

My favorite color is pink

I'm torn between blue and green.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Excellent, Love has no mass.

It took a long time for that to be recognised. But love is exists, right?

How did something massless evolve?


What's snide about chuckling and chortling at the answers given? Some of them were funny. Some were absurd. Some dodged the questions and some of the dodges were very elaborate and that made me chuckle too.

Talk about things that are worth chuckling and chortling over!

"How did something massless evolve?" . . .

What evolved was the substrate that evokes love.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Talk about things that are worth chuckling and chortling over!

"How did something massless evolve?" . . .

What evolved was the substrate that evokes love.

A substrate for love?

I do not doubt biological evolution. But the materialist philosophy that many adopt to go with it seems unsound.

 

[TillICollapse]

I'm torn between blue and green.

I actually love when those two colors are side by side. But not necessarily in the NFL ;-)