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Yes rarity on its own doesn't make something intrinsically valuable. Diamonds are instrumentally value and not intrinsically valuable because it is humans who create the system for which makes diamonds valuable economically. Without that they would be just another rock.So do we agree that rarity doesn't make something valuable then?
Nothing can "make" another thing "intrinsically valuable". If it has to be "made" valuable, then it isn't an intrinsic property. It requires referencing the thing that "made" it valuable.Yes rarity on its own doesn't make something intrinsically valuable.
Well its more an instrumental value in that it requires something else to make it valuable and its not valuable in itself. The market system is what makes diamonds valuable and without that they would just be another rock in the ground. But "Life" is valuable in itself and does't need anything else of value to make it valuable.Nothing can "make" another thing "intrinsically valuable". If it has to be "made" valuable, then it isn't an intrinsic property. It requires referencing the thing that "made" it valuable.
Diamonds are rare, but that doesn't mean they're intrinsically valuable. So what does rarity have to do with intrinsic value?Well its more an instrumental value in that it requires something else to make it valuable and its not valuable in itself. The market system is what makes diamonds valuable and without that they would just be another rock in the ground. But "Life" is valuable in itself and does't need anything else of value to make it valuable.
Thats right rarity on its own doesn't make something instrinsically valuable. A specific shaped rock or kindy painting from a 5 year old may be rare but that alone doesn't make them intrinsically valuable or special for that matter.Diamonds are rare, but that doesn't mean they're intrinsically valuable. So what does rarity have to do with intrinsic value?
Then what does rarity have to do with intrinsic value?Thats right rarity on its own doesn't make something instrinsically valuable. A specific shaped rock or kindy painting from a 5 year old may be rare but that alone doesn't make them intrinsically valuable or special for that matter.
Nothing much really.Then what does rarity have to do with intrinsic value?
Then why was that most of what you talked about in your post explaining why life is intrinsically valuable if it has "nothing much" to do with it?Nothing much really.
You asked me why is life is so special which is a different thing.Then why was that most of what you talked about in your post explaining why life is intrinsically valuable if it has "nothing much" to do with it?
No, I didn't.You asked me why is life is so special which is a different thing.
And your answer was (mostly) that life is rare.Why is this special regard deserved? In other words, why should we hold life to a special esteem?
You asked in post 1271No, I didn't.
I think you will find it was a number of reasons which converge on making life special and valuable. Such as evolutionary, biologically, culturally, socially and religiously. But also how we live like life is special and valuable when it is lost and we don't encourage miserable people to kill themselves and we dread the thought of non-existence.And your answer was (mostly) that life is rare.
I know what I said, that's why I reposted the questions. Do you not even read my responses to you? Look at what I bolded in post 1290 and tell me why you're telling me now what I said.You asked in post 1271
"why should we hold life to a special esteem?"
Okay, one by one.But also how we live like life is special and valuable when it is lost and we don't encourage miserable people to kill themselves and we dread the thought of non-existence.
All world governing organisations and nations respect and protect life through Rights and laws.
I think the reasons why life has this special intrinsic value comes from a number of sources and they all seem on converge that "LIfe" is special and valuable.
Its not a a case of just a majority agreement and we live like life is valuable for good reasons. I gave the reasons why we should hold life in special regard. But your also forgetting we are moral beings so with that comes our moral repsonsibility.I know what I said, that's why I reposted the questions. Do you not even read my responses to you? Look at what I bolded in post 1290 and tell me why you're telling me now what I said.
Okay, one by one.
We should hold it in a special esteem and it deserves a special regard
because
we do hold it in a special esteem and offer it a special regard?
No. "Do" =/= "should". That most of us do value life is not in any way a reason that we all should value life.
To answer your actual question - I don't know.Are acts wrong in themselves? Or does it depend on the context?
There is a spectrum of which a creature may be capable of acting morally/immorally. It is applied relative to the ability of the creatures mind/consciousness.
well - if there is a perfect "good" - somewhere in the universe, you'd say the good thing exists independently of us and where we are in our evolution.As we were once pre human then do you consider morality to have evolved as we did?
Life is valuable because life is valuable.
Yes so I qualified that with the list of reasons.
You listed most folk living like life is valuable as one of those reasons that we should value life. That doesn't follow.Its not a a case of just a majority agreement and we live like life is valuable for good reasons.
you think life is valuable because it is rare?You listed most folk living like life is valuable as one of those reasons that we should value life. That doesn't follow.
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