Don't worry, as Yahuweh's Word Inspired and Breathed and delivered to the Thessalonica Ekklesia,
you have not missed anything.
No one was raptured so far. (and could not have been). That same error was why the comfort and warnings of God's Word was delivered to set God's People's Minds at ease - and to expose the false teaching that worried them.
For us today, it doesn't matter. It hasn't happened, and might not happen as anyone here thinks it will.Is the rapture before or after the final Antichrist and mark of the beast? You said we were already in it and mentioned corrie so the rapture isn’t first?
really all things have occurred?
Two witnesses
Mark of the beast
If Rev was 70AD Nero would be the man of sin in 2 Thes and both are said to be destroyed by the brightness of the coming of the LORD>
The Jews never accepted Nero as the messiah.
Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He [g]expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
No one fled in 70AD when they saw the abomination of desolation.
Let's take a look at that and see if it actually states what was claimed it said, shall we?Handmaid for Jesus said:Noah knew the exact day the flood would come.Josheb said:Got scripture for that?Handmaid for Jesus said:Gen.7:4
Luke 1 speaking of Jesus work Gabriel declares he will take the throne of David and Zacharias says this."In 250 the emperor Decius issued an edict, the text of which has been lost, requiring everyone in the Empire (except Jews, who were exempted) to perform a sacrifice to the gods in the presence of a Roman magistrate and obtain a signed and witnessed certificate, called a libellus, to this effect"
The lack of a certificate would prevent one from buying or selling in the market places.
I'm not going to address every one of these claims because just one is enough. It ought to cause you to take a second look.
First, Matt 24 is the prophecy of 70 AD and it has no relation to Revelations necessarily. Jesus said of that prophecy that it would take place in their lifetimes.
"We have no king but Caesar."
All of the Christians who were aware of Jesus' warnings escaped the destruction of Israel. Church tradition is that not even one Christian was left behind. How do you explain Peter's survival if no one fled?
God made his new Covenant with Israel and they rejected it. There are no more coming. The kingdom he established lives forever. The new temple is Christ. It was rebuilt just as prophesied.
This is a very debatable topic... This site might help you with the truth it contains.:Well then, that would be an interesting interpretation of the word "this." It would also require one to ignore Jesus' words "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” So, who among his audience, and there must be more than one person, is still standing there?
The error is in reading this as the second coming, end of the world. This was the judgement that was going to come upon Israel for having murdered their Messiah as evidenced by the previous verse. He's speaking in the same way that God moved the prophets to say that God would be present when their enemies came to carry them away captive. "This generation" meant exactly that. The generation he was speaking to. The generation he was speaking to (In Mark, Matthew and Luke) is dead and gone. If it didn't take place within the time frame he laid out, then it didn't happen and that would make him a false prophet.
The false prophets though are those who keep teaching that God's words didn't actually come to pass and that they are the ones who really know when it is going to take place. But time and time again, their predictions are false. God did not ever need second chances or re-interpretation. His words always took place.
To claim otherwise is to question God's word. If you won't accept his words, then who do you follow?
Let's take a look at that and see if it actually states what was claimed it said, shall we?
Genesis 7:4
"For in seven days I will send rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and every living thing that I have made I will blot out from the face of the ground.”
The conclusion is self-evident: the verse does not in any way state "Noah knew the exact day the flood would come," as was incorrectly claimed. The verse does not state what you say it says. What Noah knew is how long the rain would last, not the day the flood would come. You made a claim. I asked if you had any scriptural support for that claim. You commended a single verse that turns out not to support the claim made.
This is a very debatable topic... This site might help you with the truth it contains.:
Some Standing Here Will Not Taste Death — The Unfolding of Biblical Eschatology
The point that Jesus is making when he says that there are some standing here who will not die before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom is that there are some to whom he is speaking who will not die before the prophecy of Daniel 7 is fulfilled, in other words, before Jesus receives the kingdom from his Father.
When we see the 2nd coming of Jesus it is Zion central and life is seen continuing after he has come and is king over the earth. The very deliverance promised in LUKE is achieved and the throne of David is going to be taken by Jesus.
The angel is in the details, Al.God told him exactly seven days before the flood started when it was going to start. If Noah didn't know the exact day, then he just wasn't good at math.
does the world reflect Jesus ruling right now and Satan bound? Zechariah 14 shows the day the LORD is king over the earth and it begins on a day when Jerusalem is being overrun and half the city goes into captivity and the LORD comes and in that day is king over all the earth and many are killed described in a very graphic way. The mount of Olives splits on that day and new valleys are formed and a new river will flow. This has not happened. If you read Dan 2 and 7 you can see the description of when the kingdom that covers the earth and has no end begins. In Dan 2 the stone cut without hands destroys and leaves no trace of the image of man's kingdom and this kingdom covers the earth and has no end. In Dan 7 a pompous one is persecuting in Israel when the kingdom is given to one described as the son of man in glory in heaven who comes and this kingdom is the one with no end and the pompous one is on the scene and Israel is saved when the kingdom comes.Jesus was already made king. He has taken David's throne.
Sure ok thanks ...really only wanted the order of it all explained as it’s confusing
The angel is in the details, Al.
God told him when the rain would start. God did not tell him when the flood would start.
does the world reflect Jesus ruling right now and Satan bound? Zechariah 14 shows the day the LORD is king over the earth and it begins on a day when Jerusalem is being overrun and half the city goes into captivity and the LORD comes and in that day is king over all the earth and many are killed described in a very graphic way. The mount of Olives splits on that day and new valleys are formed and a new river will flow. This has not happened. If you read Dan 2 and 7 you can see the description of when the kingdom that covers the earth and has no end begins. In Dan 2 the stone cut without hands destroys and leaves no trace of the image of man's kingdom and this kingdom covers the earth and has no end. In Dan 7 a pompous one is persecuting in Israel when the kingdom is given to one described as the son of man in glory in heaven who comes and this kingdom is the one with no end and the pompous one is on the scene and Israel is saved when the kingdom comes.
In the ancient Hebrew Generation does not mean the same thing that it does in english. Generation in Hebrew means an age meaning there is an indefinite period of time as to when the tribulation will begin. Ezekiel 38-39 still needs to happen as does Joel 2.Is it possible the exact year when the tribulation will end is being concealed in the scriptures that we do not yet recognize, just as the disciples were blinded to the scriptures and did not recognize that Jesus came to die on cross as Israel's suffering Messiah? Luke 18:31-34.
In the book of Genesis the Lord told Abraham that his offspring would be servants and suffer affliction in a land not their own (Genesis 15:13) for a total of 400 years. And this 400 year period of time was fulfilled when Moses delivered Israel from their bondage to Pharaoh after 430 years in Egypt and Canaan, Exodus 12:40 (Septuagint), Acts 7:6-7.
God also told Jeremiah that rebellious Israel would be taken captive for 70 years in Babylon, Jeremiah 29:10. And in the book of Daniel the angel Gabriel said there would be a period of 483 years from the decree of Artaxerxes when the anointed one (Jesus) would come to Jerusalem and be killed but not for himself, Daniel 9:25-26.
Over and over again the Lord has revealed in his Word the exact number of years for when Israel's servitude and captivity would end. And when you consider this prophetic fact its reasonable to assume the specific year for when Israel will be set free from their slavery to sin at the end of the tribulation may be hidden in the scriptures that we are unable to recognize unless God opens our spiritually blinded eyes.
The scriptural stories that are symbolic for a 2000 year gospel age that began from Jesus resurrection in 30 to 33 AD point to the probable time-frame of 2037 to 2040 for when the last year of the tribulation will be fulfilled. And the possible last year of the tribulation in 2037, 2038, 2039 or 2040, may be hidden in some mysterious and cryptic story that we do not yet perceive.
If the tribulation ends in the 2037 to 2040 time-frame, the generation that was born in 1948 when Israel became a nation will be approximately 89 to 92 years old when Jesus returns. And its possible the number 89, 90, 91 or 92 that's mentioned in a story may be revealing how old this generation of 1948 will be at the end of the tribulation.
Even though no one knows the exact day or hour when the 7 years of tribulation will begin, God may have hidden in his Word the specific year when tribulation will end. Therefore if your eyes have been opened to see a scriptural clue or symbolic number that may represent the last year of the tribulation please share your thoughts.
In the ancient Hebrew Generation does not mean the same thing that it does in english. Generation in Hebrew means an age meaning there is an indefinite period of time as to when the tribulation will begin. Ezekiel 38-39 still needs to happen as does Joel 2.
hi we are mostly on the same page but how did you deduce the sacrifice starts on day 220?The final seven years have not begun yet. Here is a chart I made that has the path of major events from beginning to end. Start in the upper left and head diagonally down through the 7 years, to the lower right, follow the arrow.
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The Hebrew way(s) of life and of thinking were once known by the Hebrews/ Jews/ Israelis (and perhaps still are!)In the ancient Hebrew Generation does not mean the same thing that it does in english. Generation in Hebrew means an age meaning there is an indefinite period of time as to when the tribulation will begin. Ezekiel 38-39 still needs to happen as does Joel 2.
Nobody knows about the rapture being before the Antichrist and the second fruits being the ones living in the times of the mark of the beast then? That’s what some say I can’t find it.
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