Is the year when the tribulation ends written in scripture?

[SPF]

that began from Jesus resurrection in 30 to 33 AD

Out of curiosity, what information are you basing the date Jesus was born on?

 

[Josheb]

Lord Jesus told the disciples that as it was in the days of Noah..... So, look there. Noah knew the exact day the flood would come.

Got scripture for that?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Got scripture for that?

Gen. 7:4

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Even though no one knows the exact day or hour when the 7 years of tribulation will begin, God may have hidden in his Word the specific year when tribulation will end. Therefore if your eyes have been opened to see a scriptural clue or symbolic number that may represent the last year of the tribulation please share your thoughts.

When did people visit and hold and worship and recognize Yeshua Messiah the Savior King of the Jews?

AFTER He was born.

When will people (a few, as then) recognize the ... er.... the trouble.... ?

AFTER it starts.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Got scripture for that?

Easy - Noah KNEW the exact day the flood started -
the day it started RAINING. (and Noah was already secure with seven others and a few animals in the ARK)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Read Gen. 7:4.

This too?

Would you print out the reference ? It does not render on my screen. (I ask this of most who post a reference also - some phones and other systems do not retrieve the reference nor render it; AND some people's use of a reference uses other words than other translations do, which can make a difference sometimes)

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

The reason most people don't recognize the historical things that have taken place which were prophecied in Revelation is because they interpret it literally. If we're to take the prophecy literally, then it's true that all the dead martyrs are underneath an altar somewhere in heaven and they're constantly crying out for vengeance, Jesus was literally holding the stars in his hand and Polycarp was a lampstand.

Be that as it may, it is not relevant to the scripture being discussed. Revelation is not a continuation of Jesus prophecy in Luke 18 and Matt. 24. Jesus said that the great tribulation would occur before that generation passed. You can accept what he said or inappropriately try to connect that prophecy with Revelation which itself says "must shortly take place."

Likely, most everything, except the judgement day, has already occurred. If you don't trust the time passages in scripture, then every time statement by God is suspect including the 400 years or so that he told Abraham would pass before his people were brought of Egypt.

really all things have occurred?
Two witnesses
Mark of the beast
peace taken from the earth that men should kill one another ethnos vs ethnos where 1/4 of the world dies
false prophet lying signs and wonders wormwood where the oceans die off the water of the world turned to blood stinging insects who torment

If Rev was 70AD Nero would be the man of sin in 2 Thes and both are said to be destroyed by the brightness of the coming of the LORD> The angles proclaim that the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our LORD and His Christ and He will reign forever. The Jews never accepted Nero as the messiah. No one fled in 70AD when they saw the abomination of desolation. The historical view fails in that is rests upon replacing the nation of Israel in certain covenants with the church. This is seriously off. The concepts of spiritual Israel of the saved and all being under the new covenant are facts I so not dispute but they can be demonstrated to be not mutually exclusive to the promises made to national Israel. When the King comes he rules with a rod of iron and Satan is bound at that time and not released until the end of the 1000 years. His release does not end the kingdom that has covered the earth, healed the earth and reigned from Jerusalem. The end is one last rebellion and the city is surrounded then fire comes down and then the great white throne judgment.
The fact that the 3rd temple is planned when global government that stands against every Biblical principal is being formed and the nation of Israel is planned to be divided while global moral conditions are that of Sodom and pre flood is great evidence that the future scenario will play out.

 

[IntriKate]

I’m confused about the order of the tribulation and end times. Can someone dumb it down for me. I have spent a lifetime scared or alert for the mark of the beast and last Antichrist etc and the rapture part. This site says we are raptured before it even begins What does the Bible say about the Great Tribulation? So does that mean we aren’t even a part of it? and I’m also confused what and who would be the second fruit as I always thought God would come back after all of the end time signs and that was the rapture and end Also how is Satan still in heaven? And why is he going to be released after a thousand years after God has come back?
Sorry if this is muddled if anyone can dicipher this and answer to help me understand the orders.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I’m confused about the order of the tribulation and end times. Can someone dumb it down for me. I have spent a lifetime scared or alert for the mark of the beast and last Antichrist etc and the rapture part. This site says we are raptured before it even begins What does the Bible say about the Great Tribulation? So does that mean we aren’t even a part of it? and I’m also confused what and who would be the second fruit as I always thought God would come back after all of the end time signs and that was the rapture. Also how is Satan still in heaven? And why is he going to be released after a thousand years after God has come back?
Sorry if this is muddled if anyone can dicipher this and answer to help me understand the orders.

It has been dumbed down dozens, hundreds, or thousands or millions of times - ALL(well, almost all) full of errors. (THE ERRORS are what CAUSE THE FEAR in so many people, and also the FALSE JOY?HOPE that they won't suffer) ....

Instead of common errors,
Stick with Scripture , simply.
That's the ONLY WAY to avoid the errors.

 

[IntriKate]

It has been dumbed down dozens, hundreds, or thousands or millions of times - ALL(well, almost all) full of errors. (THE ERRORS are what CAUSE THE FEAR in so many people, and also the FALSE JOY?HOPE that they won't suffer) ....

Instead of common errors,
Stick with Scripture , simply.
That's the ONLY WAY to avoid the errors.

Sure ok thanks ...really only wanted the order of it all explained as it’s confusing

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Sure ok thanks ...

Sticking with Scripture, does not mean to avoid all the teachings around - just don't listen to any from false teachers , ok?

 

[IntriKate]

Sticking with Scripture, does not mean to avoid all the teachings around - just don't listen to any from false teachers , ok?

I don’t believe everything or everyone I can sense when something doesn’t sit right I’d just hoped someone with more knowledge of the bible could explain if we were even here for the mark of the beast or if we were raptured I can tell by disagreements from simple questions being asked and responses who to ignore. And I agree that I need to read the bible more I am in the process I just can’t read and learn as fast as I want.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I don’t believe everything or everyone I can sense when something doesn’t sit right I’d just hoped someone with more knowledge of the bible could explain if we were even here for the mark of the beast or if we were raptured I can tell by disagreements from simple questions being asked and responses who to ignore. And I agree that I need to read the bible more I am in the process I just can’t read and learn as fast as I want.

See in Scripture (simple) : when someone is offered or told to take the mark of the beast,
if they refuse, they are killed. Thus, we won't have to live under such a system when it is instituted. We will be martyrs.

This has already happened, in part, around the world. See Corrie ten Boom's testimony online: youtube or transcript of Corrie's letter key words: Corrie ten Boom tribulation rapture.

She shows we worldwide have already been "in the tribulation" / suffering greatly for a century at least....

 

[IntriKate]

See in Scripture (simple) : when someone is offered or told to take the mark of the beast,
if they refuse, they are killed. Thus, we won't have to live under such a system when it is instituted. We will be martyrs.

This has already happened, in part, around the world. See Corrie ten Boom's testimony online: youtube or transcript of Corrie's letter key words: Corrie ten Boom tribulation rapture.

She shows we worldwide have already been "in the tribulation" / suffering greatly for a century at least....

But if it’s happened already does that mean we are the second fruit not the first who were or are raptured before the last Antichrist? This link What does the Bible say about the Great Tribulation? shows through biblical verses that the rapture happens first and the second fruit is given yet another chance to repent in the time of the Antichrist hence my confusion

 

[IntriKate]

This is pasted so you can see what I’m reading and asking

From the account of events in Revelation 3-19 we can see that the Great Tribulation has three stages.

The first stage is marked by the breaking of seven seals in heaven and it culminates in the rapture of the bride of Christ up to heaven and the harlot being cast off of the beast’s back.

The second stage is marked by the blowing of seven trumpets in heaven. This is a period where the beast will be in contention with the “second fruits;” those who were not along in the rapture but choose now to serve God. This stage ends in the reaping of the “second fruits” up to heaven and Satan being thrown out of heaven and down to earth.

The third stage is God’s outpouring of wrath over Satan, the beast, and the Antichrist and their followers. It is marked by the emptying of seven bowls of wrath over the earth. After this Jesus Christ returns to earth with His followers, marking the end of the Great Tribulation and ushering in the Millennium, a thousand years of peace.

So if the mark of the beast has happened then who was raptured and when?

 

[Deep Truth]

Out of curiosity, what information are you basing the date Jesus was born on?

483 years from the decree of Artaxerxes is how Christians try to pinpoint the year of Jesus crucifixion. And it appears that people debate over the specific year that decree was made.

 

[Al Touthentop]

From what I have read the "generation" that will not pass before all these things take place... is the generation that sees Israel reborn.... Which happened in 1948...

So, by that... this generation is now 72 years old.... and before these pass away... well you get the picture.

Well then, that would be an interesting interpretation of the word "this." It would also require one to ignore Jesus' words "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” So, who among his audience, and there must be more than one person, is still standing there?

The error is in reading this as the second coming, end of the world. This was the judgement that was going to come upon Israel for having murdered their Messiah as evidenced by the previous verse. He's speaking in the same way that God moved the prophets to say that God would be present when their enemies came to carry them away captive. "This generation" meant exactly that. The generation he was speaking to. The generation he was speaking to (In Mark, Matthew and Luke) is dead and gone. If it didn't take place within the time frame he laid out, then it didn't happen and that would make him a false prophet.

The false prophets though are those who keep teaching that God's words didn't actually come to pass and that they are the ones who really know when it is going to take place. But time and time again, their predictions are false. God did not ever need second chances or re-interpretation. His words always took place.

To claim otherwise is to question God's word. If you won't accept his words, then who do you follow?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But if it’s happened already does that mean we are the second fruit not the first who were or are raptured before the last Antichrist?

Don't worry, as Yahuweh's Word Inspired and Breathed and delivered to the Thessalonica Ekklesia,
you have not missed anything.

No one was raptured so far. (and could not have been). That same error was why the comfort and warnings of God's Word was delivered to set God's People's Minds at ease - and to expose the false teaching that worried them.

 

[Al Touthentop]

It's not exhaustively symbolic. The symbols are mixed with the literal theme.

It is all symbolic and the symbols are sometimes even deciphered for us as a means to show us how we ought to treat the text.

As has been pointed out on this thread... the tribulation remains in the future.

Rev. 1:9
"I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance that are in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and my testimony about Jesus."

Right....

What, in your view, do you see as the end of this age.. What happens and when does this age end? Do we just go on forever... in this corrupt mess of mans pride and selfishness?

The end of the age was the end of the Jewish age. We are in "the time of the gentiles." Peter told the crowd in the temple that they were in the "last days" at that time:

"No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17 ‘In the last days, God says,

I will pour out My Spirit on all people."

So was the Holy Spirit and Peter wrong?

 

[Al Touthentop]

I read it.

Seems that God gave him a 7 day "heads up". So, ya, you're right.

However, ... With Noah... He was building his escape pod... He was well aware that time was short anyway.

We don't know if God told him exactly, but God did tell us readers that there were only 120 years left before the flood would occur. The problem is that most people read it as having to do with how long men would live on average.

Gen. 6:3

"And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”

Another of those time passages that we often ignore.