Is the Word of God Feminine?

[Jermayn]

then Humanity is neither 2

Humanity was created as two different sexes. Books were not.

 

[Radagast]

If G'd said that G'd created us in a specific way (Which is in G'ds image) then the Male and Female within humanity reflects something of G'ds nature.

The "Image of God" reflects attributes that humanity shares with God. It has nothing to do with sex. Both male and female humans share those attributes.

God the Father reveals Himself as a Father.

God the Son reveals Himself as a Son, and became incarnate as a male human being.

 

[stevevw]

Feminising G'd? Abortion, SSM? What are you talking about.

The reason I bring this up is to show what the feminisation of God can lead to. All these issues are feminine issues and more supported by a feminised church just as they are in society. Obviously abortion is a womens rights issue to feminist. But LGBTIQ+ issues are an extention of feminist theory. This is known historical facts.

The reason why i created this tread is because duality is seen in everything. If G'd said that G'd created us in a specific way (Which is in G'ds image) then the Male and Female within humanity reflects something of G'ds nature. Humanity like G'd doesnt have a literal sex, i know. But the individuals within G'd and humanity obviously have male and female roles.

Yes this is the body of Christ, the church or rather His church. Yes we are created in Gods image man and women. So there is a difference. There is an order to creation and the resulting fall as a consequence. That order is also reflected in Christ as groom of His bride church. Christis head of the church like husband is head of the wife and God is head of Christ.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

So though man and women are within Gods creation and nation there is a balance that needs to be maintain. Otherwise it gets disordered and this is when conflict and chaos happen.

I think theres a specific reason why man is head over women in the spiritual sense. This has representation in marriage and ccreation. God identified Himself as the Yahway and Father so a specific reason. This is reflected in the male patriarchy that God used through the prophets and Kings leading to Christ.

It seems whenever the Isrealites fell away from God it was associated with the feminine gods and prietsesses. Moses specifically choose all male high priests because they were surrounded by the feminine priests. This practice seems to have remained.

I think the feminisation of God is a natural outflow of moving away from God. The masculline God is a God of judgement, destruction of evil nations, superior strength and power in war against opposing armies led by ruthless and evil men. The opposite is the feminine, which is the mystical, mother earth, nurturing, and sensual.

We see this where the feminine is at the forefront of antiwar, anti confrontation, compromise, social interactions, love and kindness. But these are liabilities in the spiritual war against the wolves.

This is Gods way as expressed on earth. God uses our male and femaleness physically, emotionally, psychologically, culturally and spiritually.

And speaking on celebrations, those where never commanded by Jesus himself in the gospels. Jesus told ya guys and gals to pray when know one is watching, even going as far in stating what you should pray.
Worship is not in the celebrations, worshipping Jesus by undestanding his command and living by them.

Oh come on, whats wrong with a bit of celebrating and rejoicing that Christ is born, Emmanuel, God is with us. The traditional hymns like 'Joy to the world the Lord is come' and 'Hark the herald angles sin' lol. This was a long awaited prophesy and the magi came from far to give gifts and celebrate the birth of the King and saviour.

Yes praying on your own or with others in private and not annnouncing this as some virtu signalling is also important.

I relate to David whoplayed the harp and sang joyfully to the Lord. I play the guitar and this is an expression of love and faith to God.

Gee when Christ returns there is suppose to be a big celebration like we have never seen before. A heavenly choir and all that. Even trumpets I heard. Actually forget the trumpets they weren't for a celebration.

 

[ViaCrucis]

This is very intersting Where to start.

Its weird to me as humanity (male and female) is formed in the image of G'd (Father and Word), that this duality is not a reflection of G'ds nature itself.
Like Eve being the mother of the living contrasting the word in which is life the light of humanity.
There are clearly male and female aspects within the Godhead... right?
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Those aspects of being human which are good and are of God reflect God's own goodness. That is what the Divine Image is; a reflection of God within the context of creation; that reflection is found in the command, given to men and women alike, to have dominion over creation. Human beings in having dominion over creation were to act as a royal priesthood, to care for, to steward, to tend to the good earth which God had made; the way priests tend to the affairs of a temple.

Those qualities we deem "masculine" and "feminine", and which are a reflection of the Good Creator God, are indeed a reflection of His own goodness. This isn't a duality, this is human beings being the Image-bearers of God. We may deem certain qualities as "masculine" and others as "feminine", we may think that nurturing and nourishing are "feminine" because we associate these with motherhood--but there is nothing innately feminine about nurturing and nourishing; men nurture and nourish as well--when they provide as fathers and husbands, when men serve as physicians, or when taking up the vocation of pastor in the Church to feed Christ's flock with Word and Sacrament. Likewise, we may view certain qualities as masculine, such hard work or rulership, but women no less have these qualities as well through vocations of civil leadership, engage in agriculture, or in the task of disciplining children as mothers and matriarchs of their household. So that what is good and just in being human, whether male or female, is a reflection of God. There is no duality in God, nor in man; the creative act of being male and female is for this purpose: "be fruitful and multiply".

There is not a masculine and a feminine duality in the Godhead; there is not a male/female binity. There is the One, Holy, Eternal, and Glorious Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And human beings reflect the glorious Image of God. Both fathers and mothers in their fatherhood and motherhood reflect the Father; both men and women are called to take up their cross and follow the Eternal and Uncreated Son and Word, Jesus Christ; all in Christ who by their baptism in the Name of the Holy Trinity have received the Holy Spirit who grants them faith, repairs and restores in them the Image of God, unites them to Christ, and brings us into communion under the Loving Abba Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

When a mother cares for her child in love, she reflects the Father who provides richly and sustains His children; when a husband loves his wife he reflects the service and humility of Christ who gave His life for His Church, His Bride; when anyone loves and does the will of God by faith, this is by the power and operation of the Holy Spirit who quickens us, giving us new life.

There is no duality. There is only the one Indivisible Trinity, and all human beings created in His Image; and though fallen because of sin are called and invited to be restored to a right relationship through the redemptive work of the Triune God, who is restoring a fallen and broken creation and keeping His covenant faithfulness to the whole of creation.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Isabelle30900]

The Trinity, the Incarnation, and the Hypostatic Union are central doctrinal tenets of the Christian religion. Faithful Christian people have suffered for their faith in these sacred truths. The Church has, for two thousand years, forged its identity as the Christ-bearing people of God on the basis of the truth of these things.

So yes, they matter. They matter a lot.

The ancient question once posed is as relevant today as it was then, "Who do you say that I am?"

-CryptoLutheran

Yes, I agree but the question wasn’t about “am I a man or a woman?” You can read Jesus answers. Faithful Christians unfortunately will go on suffering for their faith so let’s all stick together as one body, the body of Christ, His beloved church. my question would be “are we really the church Jesus started building?”

 

[Eldeah]

The "Image of God" reflects attributes that humanity shares with God. It has nothing to do with sex. Both male and female humans share those attributes.

God the Father reveals Himself as a Father.

God the Son reveals Himself as a Son, and became incarnate as a male human being.

yeah, so male and female attributes are present in G'd...

 

[Eldeah]

The reason I bring this up is to show what the feminisation of God can lead to. All these issues are feminine issues and more supported by a feminised church just as they are in society. Obviously abortion is a womens rights issue to feminist. But LGBTIQ+ issues are an extention of feminist theory. This is known historical facts.

I myself am not a follower of the lgbt whatever the vowels are. The only thing that i am interested in is how the scripture tend to show that There is a feminine side to G'd.
Look there is a reason why the formation of Adam would reflect something of God's own nature in order to know God better. If we want to learn what G'd is we should look at our own formation. If our being is an image of G'd, than there is a good possibility that there is feminine aspect within the G'd head where females can relate to. Eve the mother of all living (Gen 3:20) -> reflects -> The word who cradles life (Joh 1:4)

Oh come on, whats wrong with a bit of celebrating and rejoicing that Christ is born, Emmanuel, God is with us. The traditional hymns like 'Joy to the world the Lord is come' and 'Hark the herald angles sin' lol. This was a long awaited prophesy and the magi came from far to give gifts and celebrate the birth of the King and saviour.

Emmanuel!?

Isaiah 7:10-13

10 Moreover the Lord spoke again to Ahaz, saying, 11 “Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God; ask it either in the depth or in the height above.”​

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12 But Ahaz said, “I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!”​

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13 Then he said, “Hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.15 Curds and honey He shall eat, that He may know to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings.​

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Yeshua/ Jesus = Yahweh is Salvation.... The entire context prophecy doesnt fit jesus except the Virgin part (which is debatable).

Matthew 1:18-22

18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.​

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20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”​

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22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”).​

It just feels jammed into the text.

 

[Eldeah]

Those aspects of being human which are good and are of God reflect God's own goodness. That is what the Divine Image is; a reflection of God within the context of creation; that reflection is found in the command, given to men and women alike, to have dominion over creation. Human beings in having dominion over creation were to act as a royal priesthood, to care for, to steward, to tend to the good earth which God had made; the way priests tend to the affairs of a temple.

In these lines. Are you also saying that evil is not of God?

Isaiah 45:7

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​

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In the lords prayer isnt it said that

Matthew 6:9-13

“Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil”​

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Good and Evil are also within G'd, otherwise G'd wouldnt be G'd. The evil deeds that we can think out are nothing compared to what G'd can essentially think out.
You know that the serpent from Genesis was created by G'd right? G'd knew that the serpent was crafty. anyway

When a mother cares for her child in love, she reflects the Father who provides richly and sustains His children; when a husband loves his wife he reflects the service and humility of Christ who gave His life for His Church, His Bride; when anyone loves and does the will of God by faith, this is by the power and operation of the Holy Spirit who quickens us, giving us new life.

A mothers love for a child is different from what you discribe the father is giving you... And you know that.
A mother physically bears a child in great labour and physical pain. The quickening by the Spirit is not equal to a mother giving birth.

 

[Eldeah]

Yes, I agree but the question wasn’t about “am I a man or a woman?” You can read Jesus answers. Faithful Christians unfortunately will go on suffering for their faith so let’s all stick together as one body, the body of Christ, His beloved church. my question would be “are we really the church Jesus started building?”

no, we aren't that church... To be the Lord's followers we need to take heed to the First and Second commandment that the Lord gave us.
We as a collective should be a force for good.
Here is something funny, we are the stones of the heavenly kingdom. But because we do not sync together, the kingdom of heaven will never be built.

"You christians are like heavenly stones that lay divided on a plain with no builder to properly organize you into a temple."

 

[stevevw]

I myself am not a follower of the lgbt whatever the vowels are. The only thing that i am interested in is how the scripture tend to show that There is a feminine side to G'd.
Look there is a reason why the formation of Adam would reflect something of God's own nature in order to know God better. If we want to learn what G'd is we should look at our own formation. If our being is an image of G'd, than there is a good possibility that there is feminine aspect within the G'd head where females can relate to. Eve the mother of all living (Gen 3:20) -> reflects -> The word who cradles life (Joh 1:4)

Ok I understand. Yes we can find much of the feminine in the Godhead I think. Like you said Eve. God created them man and women. There are two destinct personifications of Gods creation in man and women. This can be seen in the natural laws such as biology and also in culture. Such as mothering and nurturing. Beautiful and vital representations of God.

But also like you say in Mary being full of grace and representing purity in Christ. The mother of God. This is an example for us all.

But the important thing is a balance and not to make it all about the masculline or feminine and I think to also remember that ultimatly in Christ there is no gender. But this does not negate that there is man and wopmen in the body of Christ the church and that God uses each sometimes in different ways.

Christ represents the groom (husband) and the church represents His bride (wife) which has representation in how God orders marriage and the church. Its when this balance is neglected on either side that things become out of kilt.

Though the female aspect of God is important I think there is a natural tendency when God is rejected or the teachings are rejected as being too restrictive to modern day cultural norms that it will become feminised. In that sense there is a strong pull of the femine in naturalistic beliefs as mother nature is usually softer and nurturing. Which can easily be connected to love and goodness which is then seen as moral.

So its not so much that the women is not represented equally in their own way but that either some reject the balance of the Godhead or reject God altogether that will skew things to be overly feminised ort mascullinised.

Emmanuel!?

Lol I put an E instead of an I. The King is born and His name is Emmanuell. I mean't to say

Matthew 1:23
“The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Isaiah 7:10-13

10 Moreover the Lord spoke again to Ahaz, saying, 11 “Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God; ask it either in the depth or in the height above.”​

​

12 But Ahaz said, “I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!”​

​

13 Then he said, “Hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.15 Curds and honey He shall eat, that He may know to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings.​

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Yeshua/ Jesus = Yahweh is Salvation.... The entire context prophecy doesnt fit jesus except the Virgin part (which is debatable).

Ok I am not sure how this relates to the OP ot being joyful about Christs coming.

Matthew 1:18-22

18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.​

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20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”​

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22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”).​

It just feels jammed into the text.

But whats the prophesies got to do with the OP. Are we going to side track into whether prophesies are true or not.

 

[Eldeah]

Lol I put an E instead of an I. The King is born and His name is Emmanuell. I mean't to say

Oh hahah, i wasnt correcting the name you are okay

Ok I am not sure how this relates to the OP ot being joyful about Christs coming.

But whats the prophesies got to do with the OP. Are we going to side track into whether prophesies are true or not.

Sorry i got distracted X)

 

[ViaCrucis]

In these lines. Are you also saying that evil is not of God?

Isaiah 45:7

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​

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No, evil is not of God. And Isaiah 45:7 is not saying there is evil in God. Evil is, by its very "nature" nothing, lacking substance; it is the void, the emptiness, the lack, and the misshapen. If we compare these to light and dark, light has substance, it exists; the dark doesn't have substance, it is simply the absence of light. If we compare this to a painting, we have a beautiful painting and it is good, but in much the same way as what happens if we were desecrate a painting, or cover it up with, or otherwise disguise or harm the painting it is no longer beautiful, in the same way is evil--that which is good and beautiful twisted, covered up, misshapen, twisted.

Evil doesn't have its own existence, it's fundamentally a non-thing. Evil is real in the sense that darkness is real--where there is no light, it is dark. Evil is real in the sense that ugliness is real, if we pervert the beautiful, it is ugly.

God is good. Goodness is innate to who and what God is. In Him there is no darkness, no shadow, in Him there is no ugliness; He is Beauty, He is Good. God is, as St. John writes, love.

The proper understanding of what Isaiah is saying helps if we understand the word being translated as "evil" here is better understood as calamity or disaster. The whole point in this part of Isaiah, is there are no other gods, there is no other power beside God. When bad things happen--such as natural disasters, or when Israel would be taken captive by Babylon, or other such "misfortunes" this isn't caused by some other god, there is no other cosmic power. God is the only God, and so when Judgment comes, it is by His will, and when Promises are fulfilled, He is the One who fullfills them. It is by His might that nations rise or fall, that the rains fall or the sky does not give its rain, He alone causes the sun to shine, the rivers to flow, and beasts to graze the field. He alone is God.

This is a declaration of non-duality, not of duality.

In the lords prayer isnt it said that

Matthew 6:9-13

“Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil”​

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And this is again a problem of interpretation. God isn't the One who tempts us; the prayer here is a petition that we not be in a place where we are tried/tempted but are, instead, delivered from evil. Deliver us from evil and be kept with God and away from those conditions which would try us and tempt us toward evil.

Good and Evil are also within G'd, otherwise G'd wouldnt be G'd. The evil deeds that we can think out are nothing compared to what G'd can essentially think out.
You know that the serpent from Genesis was created by G'd right? G'd knew that the serpent was crafty. anyway

But the serpent is understood to have gone rogue. This is why the serpent is, later in the Bible, understood to be the devil. The devil acting out of his own sinful devices, and deceiving Eve, and leading to the disobedience of Adam, and the expulsion from Paradise and introducing sin and death into the Good Creation.

You have it backward. If there were evil in God, then God would no longer be God.

A mothers love for a child is different from what you discribe the father is giving you... And you know that.
A mother physically bears a child in great labour and physical pain. The quickening by the Spirit is not equal to a mother giving birth.

And yet the Father loves in both a paternal and maternal way; and even when we speak of the relationship between Father and Son, the Eternal Generation of the Son is of the Father. It is the Father who "gives birth" to the Son, as an eternal act of infinite communication of His own Divine Essence. Men and women, equally, partake of the Divine Image, and both fatherhood and motherhood, as I said already, reflect God's own loving-kindness and goodness.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Isabelle30900]

no, we aren't that church... To be the Lord's followers we need to take heed to the First and Second commandment that the Lord gave us.
We as a collective should be a force for good.
Here is something funny, we are the stones of the heavenly kingdom. But because we do not sync together, the kingdom of heaven will never be built.

"You christians are like heavenly stones that lay divided on a plain with no builder to properly organize you into a temple."

What? Of course the Kingdom of heaven exists and is already built! Christ came. He was the Corner stone, so that we would all fit together. We’re all a piece of His Body. You’re not compelled to be part of It if you don’t want. We personally choose And will be here to welcome Him at His return with songs of praise. Maranatha Jesus!

 

[ViaCrucis]

What? Of course the Kingdom of heaven exists and is already built! Christ came. He was the Corner stone, so that we would all fit together. We’re all a piece of His Body. You’re not compelled to be part of It if you don’t want. We personally choose And will be here to welcome Him at His return with songs of praise. Maranatha Jesus!

He lives and reigns as King Messiah, seated at the right hand of the Father. The Prophet and Seer Daniel behold in his vision the Son of Man taken up before the Ancient of Days and given everlasting kingdom and dominion. This was fulfilled when our Lord, after He had been raised, Ascended into the heavens, having been given all power and authority, and took His seat at the right hand of the Father. So that He is Lord, King, right now. The kingdom of the heavens--the kingdom of God--the reign and rule of God is now (and not yet) for Christ rules and reigns right now.

And all who are baptized are baptized into Christ, and are partakers of Christ, members of His Body, which is His Holy Church, which He Himself instituted when He said, "On this rock I will build My Church, and not even the gates of Hades can prevail against it". So that on that Day when the Holy Spirit condescended as fire on Pentecost, the Church was birthed, baptized with the Spirit and with fire by Christ.

So you are absolutely correct, of course God's kingdom is here, Christ our Lord is seated in glory as King Messiah, Lord over all things, who reigns and rules until all enemies are brought under His feet. The last enemy to be defeated, St. Paul says in 1 Corinthians, is death; so that when He comes again and the dead are raised, "Death is swallowed up in victory". And God shall be all in all.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Isabelle30900]

He lives and reigns as King Messiah, seated at the right hand of the Father. The Prophet and Seer Daniel behold in his vision the Son of Man taken up before the Ancient of Days and given everlasting kingdom and dominion. This was fulfilled when our Lord, after He had been raised, Ascended into the heavens, having been given all power and authority, and took His seat at the right hand of the Father. So that He is Lord, King, right now. The kingdom of the heavens--the kingdom of God--the reign and rule of God is now (and not yet) for Christ rules and reigns right now.

And all who are baptized are baptized into Christ, and are partakers of Christ, members of His Body, which is His Holy Church, which He Himself instituted when He said, "On this rock I will build My Church, and not even the gates of Hades can prevail against it". So that on that Day when the Holy Spirit condescended as fire on Pentecost, the Church was birthed, baptized with the Spirit and with fire by Christ.

So you are absolutely correct, of course God's kingdom is here, Christ our Lord is seated in glory as King Messiah, Lord over all things, who reigns and rules until all enemies are brought under His feet. The last enemy to be defeated, St. Paul says in 1 Corinthians, is death; so that when He comes again and the dead are raised, "Death is swallowed up in victory". And God shall be all in all.

-CryptoLutheran

Amen