Is the use of technology and artificial intelligence by the Antichrist inferred in end time prophesy

Steven Wood · Aug 29, 2018

I hope this is the right forum to post this. I apologize if its not. I post this not because it is a hot button topic of late because of people in the secular world such as tech moguls, physicists, scientists, and even the U.N. finally coming to their senses and speaking out an ominous word of warning ,but because I believe that I was revealed this by the grace of God more than 20 years ago and I haven't been able to find anyone preaching more than half of the truth with very little references to back it up. I will not try to document every scripture inference to prove my belief in this summary I will go into detail if anyone so wishes. I do believe though that not only is there much more prophesy than the general broad belief that the image of the beast with the power to talk is a.i., many of the wonders the the antichrist is allowed to do can only be done with advanced technology, And some of the atrocities done during the tribulation point to a super computer, hive mind with modern technological weaponry. I'd love to hear if anyone else believes that they have been shown this and what proof of scripture they have been pointed to. I will say that I truly know that there are many levels to prophesy and most has more than 1 meaning. I believe that the general decoding of prophesy such as daniel 2 is very much correct but I believe some deeper spiritual prophesy is found in them that I am unable to find anyone talking about.

Dave L · Aug 29, 2018

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” (Revelation 13:16–17)

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” (Revelation 14:1)

Notice the mark is symbolic, not literal.

How does one receive it? By placing laws that force one to sin above God's precepts.

It has existed throughout history and to a degree in the USA recently when Christian businesses could not buy or sell unless they complied with sinful laws. Those who supported the laws received the mark.

Petros2015 · Aug 29, 2018

Dave L said:
It has existed throughout history and to a degree in the USA recently when Christian businesses could not buy or sell unless they complied with sinful laws. Those who supported the laws received the mark.

I feel this statement is likely erroneous.

Dave L · Aug 29, 2018

Petros2015 said:
I feel this statement is likely erroneous.

Revelation uses symbols to convey spiritual truth. If you look for the symbol, red dragons, green horses, etc., to appear, you will never see them. If you look for what the symbols represent, you can see it throughout history and know what to expect in the future.

Petros2015 · Aug 29, 2018

Dave L said:
It has existed throughout history and to a degree in the USA recently when Christian businesses could not buy or sell unless they complied with sinful laws. Those who supported the laws received the mark.

It might be helpful if you could cite the specific laws (like links to the actual legal documents), the support of which causes you to receive the Mark of the Beast (tm).

Because, well, I feel like that would be an important thing for everyone to know.

Dave L · Aug 29, 2018

Petros2015 said:
It might be helpful if you could cite the specific laws (like links to the actual legal documents), the support of which causes you to receive the Mark of the Beast (tm).

Because, well, I feel like that would be an important thing for everyone to know.

666 = man's number. And people wear it any time totalitarian government requires obedience to sinful laws in violation of God's precepts. We saw it to a lesser degree in the USA recently when Christian businesses could not buy or sell unless they "received the mark" by complying with ssm laws. Clearly forbidden in scripture. But it has existed and people have worn the mark since Nero. This would include any who approve of wicked laws.

Petros2015 · Aug 29, 2018

So in your opinion, all Christian businesses that complied with same sex marriage laws, and those who approved of, supported or in general were part of crafting of those laws (or other wicked laws tbd) - Boom, dmned, Mark of Beast - signed sealed delivered.

I guess that would include large portions of legislatures, probably multiple tiers of courts. Maybe the constituents that voted for the legislature members that brought forth the laws.

Dave L · Aug 29, 2018

Petros2015 said:
So in your opinion, all Christian businesses that complied with same sex marriage laws, and those who approved of, supported or in general were part of crafting or those laws (or other wicked laws tbd) - Boom, dmned, Mark of Beast - signed sealed delivered.

I guess that would include large portions of legislatures, probably multiple tiers of courts. Maybe the constituents that voted for the legislature members that brought forth the laws.

This is correct.

Petros2015 · Aug 29, 2018

Dave L said:
This is correct.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I had never heard this interpretation before. I think I will refrain from additional commentary.

Dave-W · Aug 29, 2018

Dave L said:
666 = man's number.

Several very early manuscripts have the number as 616 instead.

Dave L · Aug 29, 2018

Dave-W said:
Several manuscripts have the number as 616 instead.

I think the focus is on whatever the number might be, it is man's number. And not any particular individual.

Sanoy · Aug 29, 2018

It has been on my mind many times. I don't bank on it but it's there with a lot of other possibilities. My main thought is that there are a host of disembodied spirits out there, demons, who would love a host of their own - what they now acquire through possession. We are spirits that possess a body, and there is some unique physical characteristic that allows that. If that is somehow manufactured it might allow some sort of hidden possession. The thing with AI is that at some point it will make it's own thought language and will essentially black box itself from human scrutiny. Google has already seen that happen in their development of AI and shut it down because they didn't know what was being said.

Steven Wood · Aug 29, 2018

Dave L said:
“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” (Revelation 13:16–17)

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” (Revelation 14:1)

Notice the mark is symbolic, not literal.

How does one receive it? By placing laws that force one to sin above God's precepts.

It has existed throughout history and to a degree in the USA recently when Christian businesses could not buy or sell unless they complied with sinful laws. Those who supported the laws received the mark.

I completely agree with all you say. I have never believed the whole rfid thing in someones hand although it could happen. I have always believed the mark in your head was the unGodly thoughts and in the right hand as wicked deeds done. This opens a whole topic on knowing the end from the beginning but I have been told but never tried that if you read the first chapter of Genesis then the last chapter of Revelation and continue like that until you get to the middle it plays out exactly the same. I haven't looked this up but thinking about it know I think I will very soon. the mark of the beast and noone buying or selling reminds me of Genesis 6 when every thought of Man (what the number of the beast is) was evil.

Steven Wood · Aug 29, 2018

Petros2015 said:
So in your opinion, all Christian businesses that complied with same sex marriage laws, and those who approved of, supported or in general were part of crafting of those laws (or other wicked laws tbd) - Boom, dmned, Mark of Beast - signed sealed delivered.

I guess that would include large portions of legislatures, probably multiple tiers of courts. Maybe the constituents that voted for the legislature members that brought forth the laws.

I sort of agree with your mentality. Honestly Christ taught tolerance and God did too although it didn't seem like it in the old testament when he commanded to israelites to wipe out entire nations. You cannot force love for God or respect for Christian values. And honestly if we refuse service to someone based on their beliefs, we are no better than they are. Up until lately with the ruling of roe vs. wade and the courts decision to made birth control coverage mandatory for all businesses The right to do or refuse something because of our belief was usually with us.

2PhiloVoid · Aug 29, 2018

Steven Wood said:
I hope this is the right forum to post this. I apologize if its not. I post this not because it is a hot button topic of late because of people in the secular world such as tech moguls, physicists, scientists, and even the U.N. finally coming to their senses and speaking out an ominous word of warning ,but because I believe that I was revealed this by the grace of God more than 20 years ago and I haven't been able to find anyone preaching more than half of the truth with very little references to back it up. I will not try to document every scripture inference to prove my belief in this summary I will go into detail if anyone so wishes. I do believe though that not only is there much more prophesy than the general broad belief that the image of the beast with the power to talk is a.i., many of the wonders the the antichrist is allowed to do can only be done with advanced technology, And some of the atrocities done during the tribulation point to a super computer, hive mind with modern technological weaponry. I'd love to hear if anyone else believes that they have been shown this and what proof of scripture they have been pointed to. I will say that I truly know that there are many levels to prophesy and most has more than 1 meaning. I believe that the general decoding of prophesy such as daniel 2 is very much correct but I believe some deeper spiritual prophesy is found in them that I am unable to find anyone talking about.

For lack of a better term, I'd say you hit it on the Mark, Steven! But sssshhhh! Don't tell anyone. Everyone else wants to play pretend that your interpretation is ... just that, your interpretation. Otherwise, they'd have to stop enjoying the conveniences of their I-phones.

Steven Wood · Aug 29, 2018

Sanoy said:
It has been on my mind many times. I don't bank on it but it's there with a lot of other possibilities. My main thought is that there are a host of disembodied spirits out there, demons, who would love a host of their own - what they now acquire through possession. We are spirits that possess a body, and there is some unique physical characteristic that allows that. If that is somehow manufactured it might allow some sort of hidden possession. The thing with AI is that at some point it will make it's own thought language and will essentially black box itself from human scrutiny. Google has already seen that happen in their decedevelop and shut it down because they didn't know what was being said.

This is almost exactly what I believe. I mean it is exactly but not in a detailed extent. I know that it is only canonized in the ethiopian bible but the book of enoch (that in my opinion should still be in the bible) Goes into detail about why man became completely evil, where demons come from, and why God decided man was a mistake and to destroy everything. You are right about demons being disembodied spirits. They are the spirits of the Nephilim. and since the have to form of their own they want to inhabit any form they can. In my opinion possession is not permanent because a spirit of one kind cannot permanently inhabit the body that has the spirit of another kind. Like the bible says, everything after its kind. The nephilim was not Gods creation so when they died their spirit was condemned to roam the earth until the end of time. The Nephilim were called abominations. This leads into another passage that proves my beliefs and something that people haven't gotten completely correct. Jesus mentions 2 people by name concerning the end times. He says that it will be like in the days of Noah. Which the Nephilim were on the earth in the days of Jarod but all were dead and became evil spirits influencing the thoughts and actions of men in the days of Noah. He also said that when the abomination of desolation sits in the temple of God as its say's in Daniel ( let he who reads understand) the end of days is nigh. I offer this. Many believe that when the Antichrist sets himself up as God in the newly rebuild temple is what hes talking about. This may well be literally true but prophesy is very rarely just literal and has no spiritual meaning. Jesus and Paul refer to our bodies as the temple of God also (which is the number of man 666) but I take this a step further. Nephilim were called an abomination. Desolation literally means empty or void, Nephilim cannot permanently take over anything that God created because each creature has its own type of spirit and since God did not create nephilim, their spirit is unlike any other that has a body. In order for them to permanently inhabit something. It has to be something that God did not create and have a spirit for and it has to be empty as in desolate. I truly believe that the uptick in technology and the rush for A.I. are desires of evil spirits. since A.I does not have a spirit and android body that we make for it is desolate and since it is not God's creation like the Nephilim, the evil spirits can inhabit them. The evil spirit of the AntiChrist will inhabit the body of an android that is made to look like man. and man's body is the temple of God. Also as the AntiChrist will claim to be God, how does God save us but to fill is with his spirit. Its a natural conclusion that AntiChrist will attempt this also.

Steven Wood · Aug 29, 2018

2PhiloVoid said:
For lack of a better term, I'd say you hit it on the Mark, Steven! But sssshhhh! Don't tell anyone. Everyone else wants to play pretend that your interpretation is ... just that, your interpretation. Otherwise, they'd have to stop enjoying the conveniences of their I-phones.

thank you so much for that lol. I was afraid I was the only one that noticed convince and ease above belief

2PhiloVoid · Aug 29, 2018

Steven Wood said:
thank you so much for that lol. I was afraid I was the only one that noticed convince and ease above belief

No, you're not the only one who has noticed this motif. I didn't come to it as early as you did, in fact, I only came to it sometime over the last decade, and even then it was, for me, just a quaint surmising. But now.......................................I can't help but seeing the technological advancements in cyber industries (and A.I.) as a part of the overall problem that we have to contend with as Christians. In fact, this was partly driven home to me the other day when I had to return a rental vehicle, and they almost forced me to 'check' the vehicle back in by way of an I-phone. The thing is, they severely frowned and looked a bit piqued when I said I only have a flip phone. Go figure, ay?

Sorn · Aug 29, 2018

The thing is as soon as an android or AI starts doing something that it has not been programmed to do then it won't be long before its shut down. In short, if we build it and don't understand what its doing or how its doing it then it will be shut down.

2PhiloVoid · Aug 29, 2018

Sorn said:
The thing is as soon as an android or AI starts doing something that it has not been programmed to do then it won't be long before its shut down. In short, if we build it and don't understand what its doing or how its doing it then it will be shut down.

Don't count on that.

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