Is The Trinity Biblical?

[thereselittleflower]

those are total lies!!!!!!!

Ye do err, GREATLY, not knowing the scriptures..

That was good Paul! you have me lauhing with that one ..



I don't think so Paul . .


Peace in Him!

 

[thereselittleflower]

Right,,, which God reveals to me as needed... What the problem with that??

It's imperfect,fallible and subject to flaw and error . .that is what's wrong with that . .


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[Nickolai]

Straw??

Did you ever read the book of Acts?

Early Christians knew very well which books were from God.. And the NT writings were traveling around in basically two groups... Jewish and Pauline... (Hebrews was obviously added to the jewish group)... i might i say, history proves they were even in their proper 'dispensational' order prior to the council getting a hold of them, who of course believed the Church age, replaced Israel..

What about the NT writings that were written after the book of Acts? Including at least one Gospel.

Remember this, The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth, Not the Bible.

 

[@@Paul@@]

No Paul . . you are merely repeating someone else's lie I am sure . .for in order for you to be a liar in this regard, you would have to be well enough versed in early Church history to know the truth about this subject and then deliberately misrepresent it.



It thnk you are merely presenting the lies someone else has fed to you . which you think are true



That does not make it any less a lie . . now that you know the truth, I am sure you won't be repeating that one again . .




Paul . .

Again . . did I use the word "liar" or "lie" . .

Did I say you were a liar . . ???

Or did I say what you said was a lie . .


Please don't jump to conclusions . .


Peace in Him!

Does it really matter theres? (and yes you did)..... No amount of typing, which you will do now, can erase the impression in the minds of the readers...

You have NO idea what i know, or where i learned it... And saying i speak LIES is the same as called me a liar... period.. I guess at catholic school they leave out the most elementary lesson: "W.W.J.D."

if your goal is truly "for the faith", you would not approach things the way you do......... I don't know YOU or what YOU have gone through, But I’m praying for you theres,,, truly i am,,, don't resort to mid-evil tactics and manipulative mind game,, it's unbecoming of one who professes to be a Christian...

I could be wrong but all I have seen is “pride”.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Does it really matter theres? (and yes you did)..... No amount of typing, which you will do now, can erase the impression in the minds of the readers...

Paul . . don't put words into my mouth . . People can read . . and I clarified .

I am sorry you found it offensive. One need to be more sure of their facts before ythey go posting them as absolute truth.


You made an uniquivocable statement . . it was totally false . .

The definition of a lie is falsehood . .


Your statement was false . .


I could have said, you are wrong, what you said was false, you misrepresented the truth, or that it as a lie . .

They mean the same thing.



Peace in Him!

 

[nephilimiyr]

Does it really matter theres? (and yes you did)..... No amount of typing, which you will do now, can erase the impression in the minds of the readers...

You have NO idea what i know, or where i learned it... And saying i speak LIES is the same as called me a liar... period.. I guess at catholic school they leave out the most elementary lesson: "W.W.J.D."

if your goal is truly "for the faith", you would not approach things the way you do......... I don't know YOU or what YOU have gone through, But I’m praying for you theres,,, truly i am,,, don't resort to mid-evil tactics and manipulative mind game,, it's unbecoming of one who professes to be a Christian...

I could be wrong but all I have seen is “pride”.

Touche!

 

[thereselittleflower]

f you do not accept the authority of the Church, the kingdom of God, to exercise the charism of infallibility, the ALL truth Jesus promised us through the Holy Spirit, then you have nothing to anchor you . . you are adrift . . you have no plumb line .. only your own imperfect understanding .

those are total lies!!!!!!!

Ye do err, GREATLY, not knowing the scriptures..

hmm Paul . .

I guess what is good for the goose is not good for the gander? (or should I say it the other way around?)


You can accuse me of lies (when we are speaking of a matter of biblical interpretation), but I can't say what you said are lies when we are speaking about hard cold facts of history?


Can someone say hypocrisy? One way street? Etc, etc, etc ??


So, am I a liar Paul? Are you accusing me of being a liar? Is that OK for you to do?


Peace in Him!

 

[thereselittleflower]

neph, you were saying?

Oh, I forgot one ..


Double standard?

I guess when one can't hold their own in a discussion or debate, the best thing to do is resort to personal attacks . .


Very telling . .



Peace in Him!

 

[@@Paul@@]

What about the NT writings that were written after the book of Acts? Including at least one Gospel.

Remember this, The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth, Not the Bible.

I believe they were floating around and "grouped together" prior to 100ad... some say maybe even as early as 90ad..

You'll understand if i do not see an earthly "church" as the pillar and foundation of truth... As it pertains to this earth it's more of an assembly of light, within a kingdom of darkness...

IMHO He did not replace a "system" with a "system"....

 

[@@Paul@@]

hmm Paul . .

I guess what is good for the goose is not good for the gander? (or should I say it the other way around?)


You can accuse me of lies (when we are speaking of a matter of biblical interpretation), but I can't say what you said are lies when we are speaking about hard cold facts of history?


Can someone say hypocrisy? One way stree? Etc, etc, etc ??


So, am I a liar Paul? Are you accusing me of being a liar? Is that OK for you to do?

Peace in Him!

never once did i do that...

 

[thereselittleflower]

never once did i do that...

You can say that what I said were lies .. but you are not calling me a liar by doing so . .


If I say that what you said were lies, it MUST mean I am calling YOU a liar . .


Big double standard Paul.


Peace in Him!

 

[@@Paul@@]

hmm Paul . .

I guess what is good for the goose is not good for the gander? (or should I say it the other way around?)


You can accuse me of lies (when we are speaking of a matter of biblical interpretation), but I can't say what you said are lies when we are speaking about hard cold facts of history?


Can someone say hypocrisy? One way street? Etc, etc, etc ??


So, am I a liar Paul? Are you accusing me of being a liar? Is that OK for you to do?


Peace in Him!

FYI: Go back to the original post and read the edited message... also note the TIME it was edited campared to the TIME i posted it..

as you stated previously,, i AM i mind reader.... I undoubtedly knew the TACTICS you would stoop to..

 

[thereselittleflower]

Which post would that be Paul?


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[nephilimiyr]

neph, you were saying?

Oh, I forgot one ..


Double standard?

I guess when one can't hold their own in a discussion or debate, the best thing to do is resort to personal attacks . .


Very telling . .



Peace in Him!

 

[@@Paul@@]

Which post would that be Paul?


Peace in Him!

May God bless me you with the patience He has given me....

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=7986545&postcount=139

 

[thereselittleflower]

May God bless me you with the patience He has given me....

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=7986545&postcount=139

Uh . . yes, that would be the one I quoted above, the edited version . . where you said

those are total lies!!!!!!!

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What was the point you were trying to make by telling me to go back to it and look?

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Again, you can say what I said are lies, but I should not think you are calling me a liar. . . . .

But I can't say what you said is a lie, or I AM calling you a liar?



by the way, if you had such a problem with me saying that what you said was a lie, why did you afterwards say what I said were lies?

Same word . .


Sorry Paul . .


I chose not to be offended by what you said . . I am not the one applying a double standard here . .



Peace in Him!

 

[thereselittleflower]

Paul if you wish to discuss this issue of the use of the word "lie" and what it means fruther, plesae feel free to PM me . .


Peace in Him!

 

[@@Paul@@]

Uh . . yes, that would be the one I quoted above . . where you said

those are total lies!!!!!!!

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Again, you can say what I said are lies, but I should not think you are calling me a liar.

But I can't say what you said is a lie, or I AM calling you a liar?



by the way, if you had such a problem with me saying that what you said was a lie, why did you afterwards say what I said were lies?

Same word . .


Sorry Paul . .


I chose not to be offended by what you said . . I am not the one applying a double standard here . .



Peace in Him!

AS i noted in my EDIT note: "See, this is getting us nowhere. "...........


It's called proving a point, do with it, what you will...

 

[thereselittleflower]

Paul . .

would you like to return to the topic of this thread now?


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[Benedicta00]

Straw??

Did you ever read the book of Acts?

Early Christians knew very well which books were from God.. And the NT writings were traveling around in basically two groups... Jewish and Pauline... (Hebrews was obviously added to the jewish group)... i might i say, history proves they were even in their proper 'dispensational' order prior to the council getting a hold of them, who of course believed the Church age, replaced Israel..

Sounds like a good topic for tomorrow! I'll gather what little thoughts i have.

They knew the OT not the NT for it had not been written yet. Cite your sources please.