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It depends on a few particulars such as -There is the premise here that the "seventh day" is not the Sabbath.
That it is the continuous rest of God.
Do you accept that from scripture?
Dunbar,The 7th day is the Sabbath but if you think you can keep it by going to church or praying or not going to work you are sadly mistaken. Sabbath means 'rest' and that 'rest' is spiritual in nature. Jesus said come unto me all who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest. He was not talking about physical labor or physical rest. He wants us to surrender our lives of sin to him so he can cleanse us and give us a brand new life. Believing in Jesus is learning to 'rest' spiritually.
So many deluded Sabbath keepers work ten times harder on that day trying to keep all their worthless rules that they completely miss the spiritual aspect of the Sabbath. These kinds of Sabbath keepers do more harm than good and are actually polluting the Sabbath with their unbelief. There are far more Sunday Christians who are resting in Christ than Sabbath keeping Christians who worship the ten commandments.
Dunbar,
How can you say that the the Seventh day is the Sabbath that is referred to in Exodus 20:10 ans still maintain that it is not to be kept as the same Exodus 20 requires?
Lets' try -Dunbar,
How can you say that the the Seventh day is the Sabbath that is referred to in Exodus 20:10 ans still maintain that it is not to be kept as the same Exodus 20 requires?
But the new covenant still contains the law! Where do you see the law removed from the new covenant? The fault was not with the law but with the people! Hebrews 8Because we are not under the old covenant anymore. If your sole reason for observing the 7th day is from the law then you are a legalist.
The same way you do, by amendment. BTW where did you get your authority to amend the stone tablets?Dunbar,
How can you say that the the Seventh day is the Sabbath that is referred to in Exodus 20:10 ans still maintain that it is not to be kept as the same Exodus 20 requires?
How can you say this and maintain the covenant isn't the law?But the new covenant still contains the law! Where do you see the law removed from the new covenant? The fault was not with the law but with the people! Hebrews 8
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
But the new covenant still contains the law! Where do you see the law removed from the new covenant? The fault was not with the law but with the people! Hebrews 8
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Love is the fulfillment of the law - Rom. 13:10
You did not answer the question nor addressed the text.The law of the new covenant is Love or 'agape'. It is written in the heart and nothing like the old law of stone. It is received by faith in Christ not by trying to be perfect and failing time and time again. God will let you try to get righteousness out of your sinful flesh but it won't be a pleasant experience.
Love is the fulfillment of the law - Rom. 13:10
"If you love your neighbor, you will fulfill all the requirements of God's law. For the commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfilling of the law." {Romans 13:8-10 NIV, NLT}
It seems pretty clear in that passage that when Paul says, "love is the fulfilling of the law," that he's not saying love takes the place of keeping the law, but that love will lead us, or enable us, to keep the law.
He makes pretty much the same point in chapter 3, only there it's faith that's emphasized as enabling us to keep the law:
"Well then, if we emphasize faith, does that mean we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law." {Romans 3:31 NLT}
Originally Posted by Elder 111
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
You did not answer the question nor addressed the text.
Plenty added commentary in your quoted version of 3:31. fulfilling the law in the sense of loving isn't observing or keeping the law. The verse only shows that there isn't a violation of the law in loving."If you love your neighbor, you will fulfill all the requirements of God's law. For the commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfilling of the law." {Romans 13:8-10 NIV, NLT}
It seems pretty clear in that passage that when Paul says, "love is the fulfilling of the law," that he's not saying love takes the place of keeping the law, but that love will lead us, or enable us, to keep the law.
He makes pretty much the same point in chapter 3, only there it's faith that's emphasized as enabling us to keep the law:
"Well then, if we emphasize faith, does that mean we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law." {Romans 3:31 NLT}
Based on the text and emphasis you provided no honest person can provide the answer you seek.Originally Posted by Elder 111
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
You did not answer the question nor addressed the text.
You still did not address the text! I did not asked for your opinion!The new covenant is written in the heart not on stone. Paul said that Love is the fulfillment of the Law - Supreme love for God and unselfish love for our brother. There are no 'Thou shalt not's' in the new covenant. When you boil it all down there is really only one sin and that is being a legalist or unbeliever. As long as you don't do that you are fine and accepted by God.
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