Is the global ID card the mark of the beast?

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

Current affairs, because so much is happening now to get this prophesy fulfilled.. the economic crisis, and the cashless society.. etc..
So there’s one topic that is in my thoughts a lot of late, and that is the mark of the beast. Of all the prophesies in the bible, that is one of the most obvious, plain English prophesies, that is going to happen, and we all know it is going to happen.
So what is it?
There are lots of end-time scenarios that I do not agree with, based on the prophet Daniel, about the temple being rebuilt in Jerusalem, antichrist, all that.
I recently re-read Daniel and Revelation, and looked at it without all the baggage interpretation of other people. Daniel.. a historical document, of 70 weeks for the history of the Israelites, up until the death of Jesus and the sacking of Jerusalem by the Romans.


Revelation 13..
11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.

Out of the ground means .. not out of the sea, not out of the mass of people and the old world, out from a place with not many people, the new world.. the USA.
Like a lamb.. Christian - like, but underneath a dragon. (luciferian/masonic rulers/government at the base of the USA.

12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence,

The first beast is the beast of the old world, Rome and the Catholic Church… the USA draws authority from the old empire.

and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The first beast was wounded, but never died.. Rome was wounded, the Catholic Church was wounded, but it recovered.
The second beast causes all to worship the first beast.. satan.

13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

Nuclear weapons.

14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

The Roman imagery in the USA which is modelled on the Roman world and the Vatican.

15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

I’m not sure about that, whether it’s symbolic or literal.

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

This is the bit that is very plain. It is my thinking that this mark is the global ID card, which will also be used to buy or sell, a cash/debit card.. The right hand could be symbolic of action, or it could be literal, as in a physical mark, like a chip, but using the card might also be action. The forehead is mind, but it might also be literal, a mark or chip in the forehead, for those that do not have a right hand (everyone has a forehead)..
One thing is that this mark must be known for what it is, we cannot be duped into taking it, not knowing if it is the mark of the beast or not.. if we are duped, then that is unjust, and I do not believe that God is going to damn people for something that they do not know about.
So what do you think is is? I am concerned about this. The USA has the ‘star wars’ satellite program in place, I have just found out that 60pc of this technology is going to be used for the central global bank system, being set up for us all now.. for when they bankrupt the world, and remove all cash.
For those that resort to calling me a conspiracy theorist, I might remind you that these passages from Revelation are outlining a conspiracy.. a conspiracy is a plot, done in secret, by a bunch of wicked men, for a wicked purpose.

 

[billwald]

I'm sure the govt will let you get the chip on your left hand.

 

[Beanieboy]

I remember the same scare with the bar code on products.
And no anti-Christ.

I think it is important to be watchful, but dangerous to cry wolf.

 

[dayhiker]

I think something Global will happen as Revelation says. But just being global doesn't make it the antichrist's mark. The antichrist makes it wrong when we have to worship and serve the antichrist rather than Christ.
While it seems that America could be put under a global system quite quickly, I think when you look world wide it would be very hard to impliment a world monitery system. I'd even submit that if the world system wants a system different than American system then America would be very interested in joining it. Think how many years its taken the Euro to be implimented and its still not completely implimented.

dayhiker

 

[josephrobert]

A common code as it is to be inferred from the bible. Also some of the ancient texts suggest that the number is 616. But this is not the important thing. A Global ID card in the present situation??? I don't think so. But as and accordingly there should be many events that should happen before the beast would enforce that number on everybody. And of course don't forget all this would be after rapture. As far as we are concerned we should be ready for the rapture and all the events after the rapture is not our concern.

 

[engrafted]

~ thinking on your post. We get even more evidence of the slow boil on the agenda that is Satan. There may be speculation , like "billwald's" post. I guess maybe an attempt at humor.

But, setting aside cynisism and conjecture. The fact is : " like the days of Noah. So will be the coming of the Son of Man.

This passage alludes to the attitude of mens hearts in the last days. " Where is the promise of His coming? " Just as they mocked Noah for the building of the ark. So there will be an apostacy of the heart. This is part of the silver lining that will differentiate between the those who are looking for His appearing and those who are of the world.

I believe are hearts should be above all , solely fixed on Christ in this hour. His is the author and finisher of our faith. We cannot afford to offer God any lesser parts of ourselves or our fellowship in love toward one another.

So i believe your input on prophesy is more vital information that we can take as a heed. Our play time is over.

I was reading last night. Where Nadab and Abihu offered strange fire before the Lord in the tabernacle. They were consumed by the Lord. ~ Moses was instructed by the Lord that those who serve before the Lord in the Holy Place are not to be intoxicated.

This should speak to us that not only is God not playing games when it comes to His house. But, we should be sober minded in our service to the Lord. How? does this translate in a todays world. By New Testament scripture. We have become the "temple" of the Lord. The Holy Place resides in us by the Holy Spirit. What are we offering? Are we drunk w/ the wine of intoxication of unbelief ,complacency? Still watering down Gods Word to bend it to our own compromise.

Repentance is a gift from God. Its best we pray for it and seek the change God has for us.

 

[X=?]

I remember the same scare with the bar code on products.
And no anti-Christ.

I think it is important to be watchful, but dangerous to cry wolf.

EXACTLY!!!

Fantastic quote if I might say, someone give this man some rep or a cookie. Personally I think he would want rep.

We should be Watchmen and Watchwomen as marksman for the signs of the times, for all we have are signs to watch for before the 2nd comming. ID cards is one thing but it would likely not be a card but a chip but then I have been hearing this for about 10+ years. All I will say is interesting things are happening its where they go that will make me decide upon a conclusion.

 

[ScreamingTenderness]

I think the mark of the beast will be something irriversable. I can throw away my global ID card... also it seems like taking the mark is about making a decision...like we will know exactly what we are doing and what it means..it wont be something we will have to guess at. As far as I am concerned, I think we are still a ways off from endtimes. And for the record, i lean to there being no rapture at all. Im a post trib believer do i care very much about the signs of the times.

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

~ thinking on your post. We get even more evidence of the slow boil on the agenda that is Satan. There may be speculation , like "billwald's" post. I guess maybe an attempt at humor.

But, setting aside cynisism and conjecture. The fact is : " like the days of Noah. So will be the coming of the Son of Man.

This passage alludes to the attitude of mens hearts in the last days. " Where is the promise of His coming? " Just as they mocked Noah for the building of the ark. So there will be an apostacy of the heart. This is part of the silver lining that will differentiate between the those who are looking for His appearing and those who are of the world.

I believe are hearts should be above all , solely fixed on Christ in this hour. His is the author and finisher of our faith. We cannot afford to offer God any lesser parts of ourselves or our fellowship in love toward one another.

So i believe your input on prophesy is more vital information that we can take as a heed. Our play time is over.

I was reading last night. Where Nadab and Abihu offered strange fire before the Lord in the tabernacle. They were consumed by the Lord. ~ Moses was instructed by the Lord that those who serve before the Lord in the Holy Place are not to be intoxicated.

This should speak to us that not only is God not playing games when it comes to His house. But, we should be sober minded in our service to the Lord. How? does this translate in a todays world. By New Testament scripture. We have become the "temple" of the Lord. The Holy Place resides in us by the Holy Spirit. What are we offering? Are we drunk w/ the wine of intoxication of unbelief ,complacency? Still watering down Gods Word to bend it to our own compromise.

Repentance is a gift from God. Its best we pray for it and seek the change God has for us.

It seems the admin are deleting a lot of my posts, which are critical of the US.. I've had to change my icon to Christian, as it seems people do not think i am Christian, because i do not believe in supporting the israelis, in their genocide of the palestinians. I heard Walter Vieth comment on that 'strange fire' thing.. he was likening it to the charismatic revivals, perhaps it was some sort of fire produced by adding chemicals to the fire to make it flash colour. I still think it's the USA/UK as the beast in Rev. . the lamb that comes out of the ground, and speaks like a dragon.. that is perfect for US/UK world power, the two horns being the UK ruler.. the Queen/political leaders, and the US leaders. I recently read a very good book by William Engdahl, 'A century of war'.. it's about the anglo-american political agenda, since about 1880, it illustrates a world view that you dont read very much in the UK.. the British machinations; you often read about the US global agenda, but not how deep the British is in, behind the scenes.
I think there's more to 'as in the days of Noah'.. that is a reference also to the fallen angels, and their return, the iron mixed with clay, that will not cleave.. that is human/alien genetics in the last days. I hope that the end of days is a long way off, as i am not a believer in 'rapture'.

 

[one11]

I'm sure the govt will let you get the chip on your left hand.

I've never heard of a global ID card.

The chip I've heard of, but the chip was designed for cattle ranchers and other animal ranchers as 1) A more humane way than the branding iron, and 2) A way to keep track of whom the cattle belonged too as well as a way to try to keep track of mad cow disease, i.e., what herds was "mad cow" coming from.

However, to force a human being to take a device into their body against their will I think would be against the U.S. Constitution. Anyone being forced to do something with their body against their will would be akin to rape and/or slavery, wouldn't it?

Anyhoo, don't know much about a "global ID card"?

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Yeah, what's the global ID card? I haven't heard anything about it either.

I have heard Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd, Kissinger, and various others as well as former PM of Australia Paul Keating calling for a global new world order with "global political power and global financial power" to get the world out of this contrived "economic crisis".

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

The ID cards are inter-readable, the US card is compatible with the EU card and the Malaysian etc.. it's not here yet, but they are planning it so that it is a global ID system, which is similar to a debit card used all over the world. The chip is the next stage.. read Aaron Russo..