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Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

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So do you consider this proof of god?
 
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I think your post is off topic, this thread is not about what I post in answer to the questions I am asked, please try to say on topic.
OK, I guess it is useless to ask why you have pursued an off-topic side discussion.
 
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For making a mistake and then correcting it themselves. And why does that get your knickers in such a twist?

When you examine the churchs behaviour,
there is such a flood of misfeanasnce, collusion,
malfeasance, fraud, terrorism, murder and torture, which makes
it like super important to try to find any errors ever made
by individual scientists or amateurs, haul them out over
and over and make as big a deal as possible, which requires
not just reaching back through the decades. but running
them through the creoconverter until misrepresented
beyond recognition except the name.
 
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You shouldnt expect any rational person to belive that crap.
Then I'll ask you basically the same question I asked driewerf:

Okay with you if I portion out your backyard to your neighbors?
 
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When you examine the churchs behaviour,
Which church's behavior? you've got what? 38,000 to pick from?

Which one(s) specifically are you addressing?

Or are you addressing all 38,000 collectively?

That's what you learn to do in college, isn't it?
 
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Yep, that was the list.
 
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That sounds fine, but I will continue to put my faith in Jesus instead.

And the only way you know what Jesus taught, said, and did, is from the scriptures.

If they aren’t reliable, then neither is your knowledge about Jesus - thus its a contradiction to state you believe Jesus above the words in the Bible.

Shalom.
 
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That's something I really don't understand. The idea of existing for eternity is horrific. While I may want a few extra years in my life, at some stage I want the lights to go out.

I guarantee you that on your deathbed, you won’t be saying you’re ready for oblivion - which BTW is untrue, when you draw your last mortal breath you will be in eternity forever as a conscious soul, either in paradise or in hades.
 
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They play games with radiometric dating, to get the age that they want something to be.

C14 is particularly unreliable due to the degradation of the earths magnetic field.
 
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That would be incorrect.
Try a hard Panenthiest.
I simply do not know how to separate God from life and this Creation.

Just love k at Jesus, who is God and created the world, and the separation of creator from creation becomes incredibly obvious.

Shalom.
 
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Well since there is no empirical evidence that life can be generated from non life or that nothing can become something reality would require acceptance of the existence of God.

In fact there’s a scientific law called the law of biogenesis that states life only comes from other life.
 
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Since there is no empirical evidence for God reality would require acceptance of life coming from non life.

Seriously, did you even think through your assertion?

Yet it’s a fact that the biological programming language that is the operating system that cells run on called DNA, can only come from an intelligent mind.

There is no natural mechanism that can write information such as DNA is comprised of, its a four letter biological programming code that can’t write itself anymore than the binary programming language that our computers run on, such as Windows, can write itself.

Instinct is another proof that life requires an intelligent creator.

Remember that learned knowledge and behavior is not heritable - thus the sucking reflex, which is instinctual behavior without which newborn mammals would die because they couldn’t get nourishment - is a pre-programmed behavior that is like ROM memory pre-programmed into a PC, without which it couldn’t function at all.

There are many other complex instinctual behaviors without which many animal and insect species could not survive - all pre-programmed knowledge requiring a programmer, just as DNA requires a code writing intelligence to create it.
 
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And the laws of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created - thus the creation of energy that became matter from the Big Bang, (which wound up the universe that is currently unwinding and headed for heat death due to entropy), is an event outside of the known natural laws of physics and science, is by definition SUPERNATURAL, which means God created the Big Bang supernaturally.
 
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