It seems like whenever I hear someone talk about their favorite band, they tell me how talented the musicians are....how great the singer's voice is, etc. Is this really the most important thing? Does it have to be important at all?
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Is Talent Everything?
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peanutbutter12
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LOL! There is barely any talented bands out there right now. What exactly defines as talent, anyway? Being able to strum a few strings on a guitar? Be really fast on the drums but not know what the heck you're doing? Or maybe screaming as loud as you can into a microphone...
These bands out right now don't have a clue what talent is. Back in the days of bands like Queen, Zeppelin, Floyd, Hendrix... these people changed and molded the way music was played, heard, and duplicated. They strived to make artistic music where todays "artists" probably couldn't do half of what they did. The music was so diverse because it was fresh. Today, I turn on the radio and hear a song... then change station and hear a song that sounds exactly the same... continue listening, no change... It's pathetic the way no one is origional anymore.
Granted, there are a few bands out there that have put some new sounds on the board, but they are lacking the artistry of their former mentors before them.
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These bands out right now don't have a clue what talent is. Back in the days of bands like Queen, Zeppelin, Floyd, Hendrix... these people changed and molded the way music was played, heard, and duplicated. They strived to make artistic music where todays "artists" probably couldn't do half of what they did. The music was so diverse because it was fresh. Today, I turn on the radio and hear a song... then change station and hear a song that sounds exactly the same... continue listening, no change... It's pathetic the way no one is origional anymore.
Granted, there are a few bands out there that have put some new sounds on the board, but they are lacking the artistry of their former mentors before them.
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Axver said:
Maybe I'm not making myself very clear. When I say talent, I mean instrumental/vocal talent. Basically what I'm trying to get at is that musicians can be relatively untalented with their instruments and still make really great music. Do you guys agree?
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i think talent is everything... the most dissapointing thing is to hear a band play live and really suck. in my opinion, true talent is blowing people's minds when you play live. almost anyone who can sing and strum a guitar can go into a studio and make good music, all you need for that is a good producer. but talent is going out on tour and making fans, by the way you change things up, and really hit all the right notes on your own, without a producer changing everything.
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musiclover said:
But isn't good music the point? I don't care how many "right notes" a band hits in their live shows as long as their music is powerful and moves me. And I definitely don't agree that all you need to make good music is a good producer. As far as I'm concerned, no producer could make most of today's mainstream pop sound good to me.
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Agreed. Talent created good music. A lack of talent does not create good music. You may not be the world's greatest guitar player, you may hit the random wrong note live sometimes, but if your music is moving people and is 'good', then you've obviously got some talent there.
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peanutbutter12
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You only understand what you get. To a lot of people, what they hear on the radio now days is talent to them because they haven't heard anything better than whats being played. The reality is, the music played today is trash. No talent lusers playing the same 3 chords over and over and look, we have a song! Pathetic.
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if talent was required to make music sell, then their would be no such thing as rap 
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i wouldnt know, ive chosen not to corrupt my virgin ears with the sound of rap. Id much rather listen to slipknot. (yes, this is sarcasm)
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That is why I listen to older music like Lynyrd Skynyrd and the Charlie Daniels Band. Also, that I why I like the Steve Miller Band.
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most pop artists don't even write their own songs... they go into the studio, sing into the mic, their voice is altered with a machine so that it's in tune (yes, they have a machine for that), then the producer messes around with it until it hits TRL and becomes the #1 song in america...
That is what music is all about these days...
most of the rock bands out there find a catchy guitar riff, and then sing something extremely repetitive.... true, they do have more talent than the pop star who didn't even write their music, but most of the time they're not coming up with something new, they just use some old catchy chord progression...
i'm not exaggerating...With only a year of guitar lessons you can learn to play most of what is popular on the radio.
right now i'm watching a live dave matthews band dvd. the reason i love this band is because they take songs that are like 5 min long, and then in concert, they make them 20 min long by adding a bunch of solos, which they are making up as they go... totally improv. that takes skill.
...see if blink 182 can play "all the small things" for 20 min. long. and make it interesting to listen to.
That is what music is all about these days...
most of the rock bands out there find a catchy guitar riff, and then sing something extremely repetitive.... true, they do have more talent than the pop star who didn't even write their music, but most of the time they're not coming up with something new, they just use some old catchy chord progression...
i'm not exaggerating...With only a year of guitar lessons you can learn to play most of what is popular on the radio.
right now i'm watching a live dave matthews band dvd. the reason i love this band is because they take songs that are like 5 min long, and then in concert, they make them 20 min long by adding a bunch of solos, which they are making up as they go... totally improv. that takes skill.
...see if blink 182 can play "all the small things" for 20 min. long. and make it interesting to listen to.
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....why do you guys focuse so much on talent....? if I like it I listen to it
so if there's a song you like, but it's by a band with no talent, then you wont listen to it just because of that...???
where do you draw the line of what you think is enough talent??? - and if you really thought it was all about talent why don't you just listen to classical music, now thats talent.
also I think Blink 182 is a very poor example, a band like Metallica could probably do the same, if not even better
and another question, do you then like all music coming from talented artists
so if there's a song you like, but it's by a band with no talent, then you wont listen to it just because of that...???
where do you draw the line of what you think is enough talent??? - and if you really thought it was all about talent why don't you just listen to classical music, now thats talent.
also I think Blink 182 is a very poor example, a band like Metallica could probably do the same, if not even better
and another question, do you then like all music coming from talented artists
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fisheye said:
This is exactly the point I was getting to. Some bands that I like are not particularly talented; I just like the way they sound. It's as simple as that. Also, while I don't particularly like mainstream pop, I have no problem with it. If there is someone out there that geniunely likes that music, more power to them. There is nothing inherently bad in that music, nor is there anything inherently good in more experimental music. They are just different from each other. The problem is that everyone seems to think their music is objectively better than everyone else's--heck, I'll admit that I've thought that about my music. However, it just ain't true.
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yes, i have to admit... i have liked music that was by non-talented artists... most of the time it wares off pretty fast because the radio overplays everything... even the best stuff.
the reason i used blink 182 as an example is because they are played a ton on the radio.
it's just sad for me to hear simple plan get sooooo much time on the radio, and there's alot better bands out there that can't get heard.
the reason i used blink 182 as an example is because they are played a ton on the radio.
it's just sad for me to hear simple plan get sooooo much time on the radio, and there's alot better bands out there that can't get heard.
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the reason i'd rather listen to talented artists is because when i buy a cd that's really catchy, i usually don't listen to for years and years... after a few weeks of non stop listening i set it aside and i usually never come back to it.
but when i buy a cd where the artist has serious musical skills, i'll listen to it, maybe not "non stop for a few weeks", but i remember the talent so i keep pulling it out, year after year.
but when i buy a cd where the artist has serious musical skills, i'll listen to it, maybe not "non stop for a few weeks", but i remember the talent so i keep pulling it out, year after year.
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musiclover said:
They're alot better bands by your standards. The majority of people that listen to the radio would probably rather hear Blink 182 and Simple Plan more than these better bands you talk about. Therefore, they are the ones that get radio airplay. Is this bad? Of course not. You can still listen to your music through other mediums than radio. Radio is not made for the type of bands that I listen to, so I just don't listen to the radio. Those who like more popular bands can listen to the radio as much as they want. The point is that Blink and Simple Plan are not better or worse than anyone else. They are merely different.
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