Is SOLO Scriptura Scriptural?

[Standing Up]

Originally Posted by Standing Up

Jn. 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
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From his birth? From the time when he was begotten not made?

Everyone but you knows the answer . When did He call the disciples? The thing with writing is you can go back and check. Again, again, again, from the beginning of His ministry.

 

[Montalban]

Everyone but you knows the answer

vox populi is a logical fallacy

However I'm trying to work out what you mean. First you said that they had to be a witness. Then you said that they had to be a witness to three particular things. Now you're saying since they were called to be an Apostle.

None of which gives Paul as a 'witness'. So regardless of how many different changes in stance you make you've still excluded Paul

When you can make up your mind what it is you think, let me know

 

[Standing Up]

vox populi is a logical fallacy

What's the latin for council?

However I'm trying to work out what you mean. First you said that they had to be a witness. Then you said that they had to be a witness to three particular things. Now you're saying since they were called to be an Apostle.

When you can make up your mind what it is you think, let me know

Okay. Peace and out.

 

[Montalban]

What's the latin for council?

I don't know. What's that got to do with your logical fallacy?

Okay. Peace and out.

Your use of circular logic is quite amazing.

When I ask you how do you know why a particular book should not have been included in the Bible (remember 'secret sayings') you knew by testing it against a book in the bible. So by that 'logic' people chose the books in the NT by comparing them to books in the NT

 

[Montalban]

If someone would like to show from scripture where we should only use scripture that would be fantastic (literally)

So far we've seen examples of one group of non-Christians using scripture. Doe this mean that we should ONLY use scripture? It doesn't say so. There's nothing saying "You should do as they did".

Unfortunately this example is presented over and over again as if it proves "ONLY" but it doesn't... unless one adds assumptions NOT IN scripture.

 

[MamaZ]

If someone would like to show from scripture where we should only use scripture that would be fantastic (literally)

So far we've seen examples of one group of non-Christians using scripture. Doe this mean that we should ONLY use scripture? It doesn't say so. There's nothing saying "You should do as they did".

Unfortunately this example is presented over and over again as if it proves "ONLY" but it doesn't... unless one adds assumptions NOT IN scripture.

If what is being taught does not line up with the full context of scripture why should we believe what is being taught?
Why not take what is being taught to the scripture and see if indeed what they say is indeed what God has Said through His word? For we know that the Scripture is breathed by God.

 

[Montalban]

If what is being taught does not line up with the full context of scripture why should we believe what is being taught?

Does tradition contradict scripture?

Why not take what is being taught to the scripture and see if indeed what they say is indeed what God has Said through His word?

Because scripture can be interpreted many ways. That's why there's 100'000s of Protestant branches

For we know that the Scripture is breathed by God.

Who's denied this?

Where's it say only scripture is from God?

 

[MamaZ]

Does tradition contradict scripture?

in some cases yes it does. Not only does it contradict it adds to.

Because scripture can be interpreted many ways. That's why there's 100'000s of Protestant branches

Says you

Who's denied this?

It was just a reminder

Where's it say only scripture is from God?

Where does it say tradition is breathed by God?

 

[Rick Otto]

How many ways can I interpret tradition?
(I'm tryin' to decide when to celebrate Easter)

 

[Rick Otto]

quote=Standing Up;What's the latin for council?

Ouncil-Cay

 

[Montalban]

Where does it say tradition is breathed by God?

I've already quoted Paul twice saying to people to keep to what was taught both verbally and written

Says you

You deny that there's 100,000's of Protestant denominations?

It was just a reminder

When not arguing something I always like a reminder of a point I've not made. Thanks. Blessings on their way

 

[Montalban]

How many ways can I interpret tradition?
(I'm tryin' to decide when to celebrate Easter)

How many ways can you interpret it? I don't know.

What's scripture say about when to celebrate Easter?

 

[Rick Otto]

quote=Montalban;If someone would like to show from scripture where we should only use scripture that would be fantastic (literally)

If someone would see it when it's put in their face, that would be gettin' real. Realy

So far we've seen examples of one group of non-Christians using scripture

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Yes, even they! BTW, nonChristians were one realy big group at the time.

Doe this mean that we should ONLY use scripture?

Besides that being an incomplete thought, it's upside down: Only scripture is usefull.

It doesn't say so. There's nothing saying "You should do as they did".

"More noble", it says. Is that something to religiously avoid?

Unfortunately this example is presented over and over again as if it proves "ONLY" but it doesn't... unless one adds assumptions NOT IN scripture.

So then it's safe to say you haven't persuaded anyone?
What assumptions, would be necessary to add to prove "ONLY"?

 

[Montalban]

If someone would see it when it's put in their face, that would be gettin' real.

Please present this.

Yes, even they! BTW, nonChristians were one realy big group at the time.

Do you always look to non-Christians for examples?

Besides that being an incomplete thought,

How?

it's upside down:

How so?

Only scripture is usefull.

Where's it say that?

"More noble", it says. Is that something to religiously avoid?

By being 'more noble' where does it say to only use scripture ever?

So then it's safe to say you haven't persuaded anyone?

Appeal to the masses

What assumptions, would be necessary to add to prove "ONLY"?

You've made the assumption that the Bereans using scripture means that we should ONLY use it.

Perhaps you're having difficulty with the word 'only'???

There's a really good dictionary site here

 

[Montalban]

I'd like to see more underlined and coloured random biblical quotes! Anyone?

 

[Fireinfolding]

Prov 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

1Cr 3:18... If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

Those are pretty

 

[Rick Otto]

[33] Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding: but that which is in the midst of fools is made known.

 

[Rick Otto]

Oh,... sorry! You said random.

 

[Fireinfolding]

[33] Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding: but that which is in the midst of foolsis made known.

Prov 29:11 A fool uttereth all his mind...

Prov 15:7 The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.

Prov 14:7 Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Trying to follow your colors

 

[Rick Otto]

quote=Montalban;Please present this.

For what reason?

Do you always look to non-Christians for examples?

Only when you shove 'em in my face as if it makes a difference or as if they weren't "PRE-CHRISTIAN", thank you for asking in so gracious & unaccusing manner.

How?

It doesn't say what for. Could be for toilet paper for all we know because as many times as we say it to you, you interpret it completely whack, which to me would demonstrate the problem with oral tradition in the first place, except I usualy discount those people to begin with.

By being 'more noble' where does it say to only use scripture ever?

Who said ever? I'm only talkin' when verifying truth, not "ever". You have to pay complete attention to get the complete thought.

Appeal to the masses

Cute admission of failure, that.

You've made the assumption that the Bereans using scripture means that we should ONLY use it.

Did they "ask around"? No, so neither do I.

Perhaps you're having difficulty with the word 'only'???

Only with you.

There's a really good dictionary site here

I like tis one:
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