Is SOLO Scriptura Scriptural?

[Fireinfolding]

Fortunately, the contents therein can be counted on one hand

Maybe in yours, I come up farther behind even in that

 

[plmarquette]

guys.....
the book, as we know it did not exist for 30-100 years after Christ's death (written), was not declared canon (66 or 72 books) till ad 400, was not written in our own language till 1609 ...King James and Duoy - Rheims....

"did Jesus quote from bible?"no wasn't one written...He quoted His father....mentioning almost every 66 book in the bible today..."It is written in the talmud, and torah"...

neither "sola scriptora...only by scriputre, nor sola-tradition...by church and common practice work...neither is right alone...both required..." to come up with context

 

[Standing Up]

guys.....
the book, as we know it did not exist for 30-100 years after Christ's death (written), was not declared canon (66 or 72 books) till ad 400, was not written in our own language till 1609 ...King James and Duoy - Rheims....

"did Jesus quote from bible?"no wasn't one written...He quoted His father....mentioning almost every 66 book in the bible today..."It is written in the talmud, and torah"...

neither "sola scriptora...only by scriputre, nor sola-tradition...by church and common practice work...neither is right alone...both required..." to come up with context

Yes, between the two we can easily separate the traditions of man versus the traditions of the apostles.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Jesus quoted from the book of Esaias even as the eunuch did in his chariot.

At least they were holding one

 

[Rick Otto]

The Torah was on the Best Sellers scroll list at the time.
There was no radio or tv shows to talk about, & gossip was a guilty pleasure.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The Torah was on the Best Sellers scroll list at the time.

Is it still on there?

 

[Rick Otto]

I'll have to scroll down to see.

 

[Fireinfolding]

The Torah was on the Best Sellers scroll list at the time.
There was no radio or tv shows to talk about, & gossip was a guilty pleasure.

These seemed to be best sellers

Acts 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.

What was that equated to today?

 

[Montalban]

Yes, between the two we can easily separate the traditions of man versus the traditions of the apostles.

How? If the Bible is the ultimate source of information how did it inform the church which books to pick?

 

[Montalban]

That how could he have been a believer if He had not heard of Jesus? We see in the scripture that this is What Philip was preaching. He believed and was baptized.

What's your point? You started to interject in a conversation I was having with another person who claimed that the Holy Spirit wasn't working within the Ethiopian

 

[Montalban]

That learned and unlearned alike were in the same boat till Jesus come unto them and expounded to them what God concealed concerning him, the law (Moses) and the prophets (Elijah) even in the vision on the mount stood with him "speaking of His decease" or as Peter says, "they spake beforehand of the sufferings of Christ" (the scriptures testify of me). It can even be regarded as believing what Moses wrote of me, in thats what the disciples said, "we have found him who Moses wrote of" as Jesus said, if you had believed Moses you would have believed me, but if you do not believe what he wrote how will ye believe me?

Jesus being the point, the scriptures testify of him and so likewise did Phillip testfy to the same, reasoning from the scriptures (to the enuch) "Jesus". God who spake in various ways in times past by the prophets but in these last days has spoken to us in His son (God said, hear ye him) even as Moses said, "Hear ye him" as the apostles tell us, abide in the doctrine of Christ, because as Jesus said, my doctrine is not mine, but the Fathers, therefore if you have the Son you have the Father and all point back to whats built upon Him even upon the prophets and apostles, Christ being cheif cornerstone. "The law (Moses) and prophets (Elijah) stood with him and the apostles preach Him (even reason from scripture proving him)

He is the point

I still don't get your point in light of a conversation I was having with another about the workings of the Holy Spirit in this example

 

[Fireinfolding]

I still don't get your point in light of a conversation I was having with another about the workings of the Holy Spirit in this example

And I dont get what your point ever is Montalban

Continue on

 

[Montalban]

Because the OT scriptures were there and God would make sure to get His word out to His people in the written. He is faithful like that.

Still missing the point.

There was a point in time when there was no NT. There were hundreds of books

see Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers which has a list of books (some of which are simply mentions of Christ) however these books existed.

Which of them say "Pick me! Put me in the Bible!" ?

Why isn't the Gospel of Mary included?

 

[Montalban]

And I dont get what your point ever is Montalban

So now you're saying you don't get what I was talking about so you just decided to post a swathe of bible quotes anyway?

That's odd, to me it's odd.

 

[Montalban]

Although no one yet has shown from scriptures where we should only use scriptures it seems that none can point to how scriptures were chosen to go into the bible.

I see two people here posting what seems like random biblical quotes but I don't get what these have to do with anything

 

[Montalban]

Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Jesus quoted from the book of Esaias even as the eunuch did in his chariot.

At least they were holding one

So what? Who has said that Jesus never used scriptures?

It seems to be a rather selective use of evidence going on here.

When someone does use scripture apparently it means we're only to use scripture.

When someone teaches without scripture then it's ignored.

 

[laconicstudent]

random biblical quotes

Extol not thyself in the thoughts of thy soul like a bull: lest thy strength be quashed by folly, And it eat up thy leaves, and destroy thy fruit: and thou be left as a dry tree in the wilderness. For a wicked soul shall destroy him that hath it, and maketh him to be a joy to his enemies, and shall lead him into the lot of the wicked. --Sirach 6:2-4



A gift hath grace in the sight of all the living, and restrain not grace from the dead. (Sirach 7:37)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And I dont get what your point ever is Montalban

Continue on

As Philo Bheddoe once said to Jack Wilson before their big fight "I ain't doin' it fer points"
The biker's must have be Protestants

YouTube - Any Which Way You Can The Black Widows Bald2

 

[Standing Up]

How? If the Bible is the ultimate source of information how did it inform the church which books to pick?

Jesus instructed the eyewitnesses who understood they had to write it down.

Acts 10:42 And He ordered us to [fn] preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead.

1 Peter 1:12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to [fn] look.

Rom. 10:5 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO [fn] BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!"

Rev. 14:6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who [fn] live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

All of this is to show why, for example, Clement of Rome's letter was rejected as scripture. He wasn't an eyewitness. Same with Marcion. It wasn't whether they were or weren't Christian, but that their words are not equal to the actual eyewitnesses. We shouldn't equate the two.

PS Do you have any non-written tradition handed down, besides traditions of men to which you might point? Let me help. Stephen and James were martyred. The apostles had two perfect examples to write about as befits the idea of praying to the deceased Saints. But they didn't. This is a clear, unequivocal example of a tradition of solo man.

 

[Standing Up]

So what? Who has said that Jesus never used scriptures?

It seems to be a rather selective use of evidence going on here.

When someone does use scripture apparently it means we're only to use scripture.

When someone teaches without scripture then it's ignored.

Rule of faith. It is after all exactly what the very early church used to discern the true from false.