Is Sodomy whether by rape or consentual a Sin?

[lilymarie]

Don't be surprised if your perception of what is "icky" changes after you have been married for a while.

No it won't.

The HIV and AIDS viruses are so prevelant in Africa and I recently read an indepth study on why.

What is happening in the African culture is they see anal sex (sodomy) as not an adulterous act. They also use sodomy as a way to prevent pregnancies in Africa. Penile/vaginal intercourse is kept strictly for their spouses though they use sodomy on their spouses as well to keep the population down.

However, in many of these 3rd world countries where AIDS/HIV is spreading like wild fire among the heterosexual population is because many are so poor they turn to prostitution to make a little money. Also, when men in Africa leave their families to find work, they often stop at prostitution houses along the way to finding work and then back along their trail back home stopping at houses of prostitution.

If there wasn't sodomy happening in the world, the threat of AIDS/HIV would be greatly reduced. Thus, I see this act can cause death.

All those people who bought into sodomy as an alternative sexual act the report said now may have at most only 20 years to live. This was a secular report on Africa, not a Christian report. I have seen similar things on CNN, etc.

So, no I won't be involved with that nor will my husband to be.

It's a disease rampant area of the body period.

I had to undergo rectal exams, so I know it's very uncomfortable and somewhat even painful. I didn't even like a doctor doing that to me, but it was a female doctor who was checking for a cyst on my ovary. I eventually did have surgery to remove a benign cyst which was causing me a lot of pain.

However, the rectal exams are awful! They can feel the ovaries through the rectum of a woman in medical science, however. That's why a woman has to go through them sometimes.

Also, how long is one a carrier of HIV before it could be spread to someone else?

Also, a fairly famous movie star was fairly recently diagnosed with rectal cancer which is said to be spread via an STD.

Just broadening this discussion a little....

 

[akaibara]

So by sodomy, do you meant anal sex only?
I don't think anal sex is acceptable...but I think I'd still vote no on the poll because if someone is raped, they aren't sinning.

 

[lilymarie]

So by sodomy, do you meant anal sex only?
I don't think anal sex is acceptable...but I think I'd still vote no on the poll because if someone is raped, they aren't sinning.

Yes, as far as I know the definitions in most dictionaries say sodomy is anal sex?

Though I just read on encarta the definitions include both anal intercourse or sex with an animal?

Since when did that become part of the dictionary term?

However, encarta says "sodomites" are those who engage in anal intercourse.

Anyhow, could encarta be wrong? Anyways, if sodomy includes sex with an animal, I think I'd better have this thread shut down.

That is not appropriate, unless we denounce encarta's defintion of "sodomy". Still in shock, btw.

I have decided after reading the definition of sodomy on encarta to ask a mod to close this thread for me. I think that is a wise decision.

Please be patient while a mod attends to closing this thread. A person who starts an OP can request to have their thread shut down, and I will do that.

 

[manchambo]

No it won't.

The HIV and AIDS viruses are so prevelant in Africa and I recently read an indepth study on why.

What is happening in the African culture is they see anal sex (sodomy) as not an adulterous act. They also use sodomy as a way to prevent pregnancies in Africa. Penile/vaginal intercourse is kept strictly for their spouses though they use sodomy on their spouses as well to keep the population down.

However, in many of these 3rd world countries where AIDS/HIV is spreading like wild fire among the heterosexual population is because many are so poor they turn to prostitution to make a little money. Also, when men in Africa leave their families to find work, they often stop at prostitution houses along the way to finding work and then back along their trail back home stopping at houses of prostitution.

If there wasn't sodomy happening in the world, the threat of AIDS/HIV would be greatly reduced. Thus, I see this act can cause death.

All those people who bought into sodomy as an alternative sexual act the report said now may have at most only 20 years to live. This was a secular report on Africa, not a Christian report. I have seen similar things on CNN, etc.

So, no I won't be involved with that nor will my husband to be.

It's a disease rampant area of the body period.

I had to undergo rectal exams, so I know it's very uncomfortable and somewhat even painful. I didn't even like a doctor doing that to me, but it was a female doctor who was checking for a cyst on my ovary. I eventually did have surgery to remove a benign cyst which was causing me a lot of pain.

However, the rectal exams are awful! They can feel the ovaries through the rectum of a woman in medical science, however. That's why a woman has to go through them sometimes.

Also, how long is one a carrier of HIV before it could be spread to someone else?

Also, a fairly famous movie star was fairly recently diagnosed with rectal cancer which is said to be spread via an STD.

Just broadening this discussion a little....

It seems necesary to separate the questions whether it is sinful, and whether it is hygenic. That you believe it is un-hygenic seems to me not to particularly support the idea that it is sinful. Also, although the circumstances you describe in Africa increase the transmission of disease, AIDS also is easily spread by vaginal intercourse. The real issue is that one ought not to have any type of intercourse with a person infected with HIV. In a marriage situation, one would hopefully figure that out and act accordingly, and there really should be no danger of AIDS.

Also, interestingly, a very similar problem to what you describe is occurring in South America, though it has a different cause: the Catholic Church. Women there (i) have the (very strange in my eyes) belief that they can preserve their virginity by only having pre-marital anal sex, and (ii) will not use condoms, because the church has forbidden it.

 

[akaibara]

Yes, as far as I know the definitions in most dictionaries say sodomy is anal sex?

Though I just read on encarta the definitions include both anal intercourse or sex with an animal?

Since when did that become part of the dictionary term?

However, encarta says "sodomites" are those who engage in anal intercourse.

Anyhow, could encarta be wrong? Anyways, if sodomy includes sex with an animal, I think I'd better have this thread shut down.

That is not appropriate, unless we denounce encarta's defintion of "sodomy". Still in shock, btw.

Some dictionaries include oral sex as sodomy.
Some include beastality too, but I don't think anyone here was agreeing with that(I hope...!)

 

[manchambo]

Yes, as far as I know the definitions in most dictionaries say sodomy is anal sex?

Though I just read on encarta the definitions include both anal intercourse or sex with an animal?

Since when did that become part of the dictionary term?

However, encarta says "sodomites" are those who engage in anal intercourse.

Anyhow, could encarta be wrong? Anyways, if sodomy includes sex with an animal, I think I'd better have this thread shut down.

That is not appropriate, unless we denounce encarta's defintion of "sodomy". Still in shock, btw.

I have decided after reading the definition of sodomy on encarta to ask a mod to close this thread for me. I think that is a wise decision.

Please be patient while a mod attends to closing this thread. A person who starts an OP can request to have their thread shut down, and I will do that.

It really depends on what definition you look at. Many american anti-sodomy laws have defined it to include oral sex. I believe that the RCC, among others, follows a similar definition. Some have even defined it as sex in any position other than missionary.

 

[lilymarie]

I have reported the thread to the mods.

Please be patient while they close this down for me. I feel this is not an appropriate discussion as the word "sodomy" was misunderstood by me. Perhaps still is?

Thanks for your patience in this matter.

 

[GraceInHim]

Closing thread per OP's request

Peace
GIH