is smoking pot a sin

[Jesusfreekwanabe]

ok guys i am gona set up a lincon duglas debate , and like i can find reseach and all , but the main argument that is being used agenst me is that

" well God put "weed" on this plantet and we smoke it "

they also have the tendcey to use a bible verse with it found some where in genisis that states that we are alowed to or suposed to eat all the green stuff or what ever , have not got a direct on the verse yet

any way even if all u got is a good web site for me that is great too , but i if u have any comments or arguments consering the qustion i would give u a big hug and like spin around in cericlas

i want to prove that smoking pot is a sin , any advice ?

 

[Remus]

I can't seem to find the scripture for it at the moment, but the one that I'm thinking of says that the laws of the government should be followed as long as they don't contridict God's. Maybe someone with a better memory than mine can help out

 

[inHisgrip]

Its in Romans , I believe.
What I was once told was that at one time Pot would have been okay, being that it is came from God.
However, we live in a fallen world so we have made many good things bad.
Don't really have anything to back it up, but I thought it made sense.
In Him

 

[Captain_Scott]

i cant think of the verse but its in romans..."everything is permissable but not everything is benificial" anyone know that one?

 

[TwinCrier]

If they are smoking pot they may not really care what the bible says, so maybe you can point out that poison ivy is also a weed and they should smoke that as well.
Of course from a biblical standpoint we are told to be sober minded Titus 2:6, which certainly doesn't seem to be the case when someone is high.

 

[TwinCrier]

i cant think of the verse but its in romans..."everything is permissable but not everything is benificial" anyone know that one?

1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

 

[Jesusfreekwanabe]

that is in genious !!!!!!!!!!


but we dont smoke ivy becaseu we know it harms u , what about the whole "madanial puprouses"

i mean i am not so much agenst that , just like i know what a sin is and all and am tying to show that weed or somoing it is sinfull becase it takes u form God .

or leads u away .

but i my self know that if the active ingreatn THC was in pill form , just like cocaine is in morphine it coud be used for Good , and i want to ay that was its in ntdend puprous !


thank u guys all varry varyy much , any more is glady and i am varry great full for it

 

[Dad Ernie]

i want to prove that smoking pot is a sin , any advice ?

Greetings JFW,

How about this:

Ezekiel 8:17-18 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

I have read several expositors "take" on the meaning of this and I happen to believe personally that it refers to a branch or bundle of branches of an aromatic wood or plant used by priests in the worship of their gods. It may have provided a euphoric feeling of well-being or a "high" in current drug cultures jargon.

Another interpretation is the snubbing of the nose to God's commandments. And of course there are other meanings as well.

In the NT, I have found that we are supposed to be "high" in the Spirit of God, and NOT be "high" with the things of this earth.

But YOU are not going to convince an unbeliever OR many believers with verses that "hit them over the head" as with a hammer. The only way they are going to be "reached" is by careful and diligent prayer and the Gospel of Jesus Christ, for IT is God's "power unto salvation". THEN He, will deliver them from sin. That is NOT your job.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

 

[Jesusfreekwanabe]

ahh how i love wisom and truth .

yes i under stand that i can not change there minds , not one ounce . but wehn asked , "why do u belive that smoking Pot is a sin" i want to not only give a good ancer but an EXTREAMLY good ancer .

i will conquare the weekminded , i will cause the pholopsers to think and the fools to schoff me .

ahh i wish i could live hear . all of your comments have been so help full


but the next qustion is is this a contradition to gensis 1:29 wich basly states that u can eat any thing u want ..


but for this i referrr back too the prevois guy thta pointed out that we dpnt smoke poison ivey and that we did not have "thorns" on plants befor adam sinned .

 

[wannagohome]

ok guys i am gona set up a lincon duglas debate , and like i can find reseach and all , but the main argument that is being used agenst me is that

" well God put "weed" on this plantet and we smoke it "

they also have the tendcey to use a bible verse with it found some where in genisis that states that we are alowed to or suposed to eat all the green stuff or what ever , have not got a direct on the verse yet

any way even if all u got is a good web site for me that is great too , but i if u have any comments or arguments consering the qustion i would give u a big hug and like spin around in cericlas

i want to prove that smoking pot is a sin , any advice ?

I think if it is used for medicine as a painkiller, that a doc. prescribes to you it is ok. If used to escape reality? Not a good thing! Jen

 

[rainbowprism]

Anything that is used with the purpose of being intoxicted or have your mind altered is wrong in God's eyes. Not even if it is something you "only do a few times a year". I smoked pot before I was saved, the thought of doing it now convicts my heart almost immediatley.

 

[iBystander]

This would seem a "no-brainer" but allow me to give you my thoughts. First, as has been pointed out, it is against the law. We have an obligation to observe the laws provided they don't go against the supreme Law.

The obvious question would be, why would you want to smoke pot? To relax? Because you enjoy the sensation? the taste? None of these is an argument. In fact, the simple fact that it alters consciousness should be enough to signal that this simply isn't acceptable to God. Throughout the scriptures we are told to be of a sober mind. Under the influence of pot one revels in the flesh and self. This isn't pleasure condoned by God.

Altering consciousness through drugs leaves one open to outside influences apart from the Holy Spirit. Many ceremonies of other religions involve drugs or altering the conscious mind via meditation in order to achieve a "spiritual" state whereby "knowledge" is imparted. Regardless of your reasons for obtaining a high, small almost imperceptible suggestions, ideas or perhaps even revelations enter your conscious mind that persist long after the high has dissapited (engrams).

In a word, it is simply evil.

-Cf


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[Yebo]

Greetings from a sunny South Africa


The scripture you are looking for is Romans 13:1-5


It is so true what a number of people already posted regarding smoking pot (or as we know it here in South Africa as DAGGA) being against the law.

Only the other day somebody mentioned to me that he is smoking pot/dagga simply because the bible says that we must reign over all of creation (He is quoting Ps 8:6) and therefore it is allowed to smoke. He then said that he is reigning over all creation and uses dagga to proof his point. Apparently it is not “affecting” him.

As in a flash of lighting, the Holy Spirit requested me to say to the individual that if he is reigning over all of creation, then why is he not playing around with the BIG 5 as well. For those of you who do not know what the BIG 5 is, it refers to the lion, leopard, buffalo, elephant and cheetah. Obviously, the young man could not answer.

English is not my first language, hence I sometimes struggle quite a lot to express myself meaningful. The way I understand the word ABUSE, it consists of 2 words, namely ABNORMAL and USE. When anything is being used abnormally, it is being abuse. With that understanding of the word ABUSE, lets then ask the question what the purpose was for pot/dagga to be created by the Lord. Without any doubt, I can say that it is definitely not to smoke.

The purpose for its creation was to be utilized in medicine as a pain killer and not to smoke!!!! For the same alcohol and nicotine were also not created to drink and smoke as if it is there for our pleasure.

Be BLESSED by the BEST and stay within the confinements of PEACE

 

[Wayfarer]

Regardless of whether smoking pot is a sin or not (which i'm sure it is), isn't it rather digusting anyway? The smell, the affect on the body, etc. It all seems rather... unclean (for lack of a better term). Yech.

 

[LivingWitness]

farmakeiða is the greek word for sorcery and witchcraft it is also the same word that Pharmacy or drugs are derived.


Be sober minded. we are admonsihed to be sober minded.

Being someone who has had this debate with others, you are mostly speaking on deaf ears your best bet is to pray for them to be open to the holy Spirit and his guidance.

Pot is a lust of the flesh. But the plant has tremendous other uses that should be taken advantage of.

But making cloth and getting high are 2 seperate things completely.

Raygn

 

[notinvain]

I think if it is used for medicine as a painkiller, that a doc. prescribes to you it is ok. If used to escape reality? Not a good thing!

These are short but wise words, what is the purpose behind smoking weed? Obviously not for medicinal purposes if your trying to reach an euphoric high? If you drink to lower your heart rate, is it sin? If you drink to get drunk then you do it for the high. There is evidence that marijuana helps in some medical treatments, but crack, coke, pcp, whatever are merely for obtaining the "rainbow euphoria" to escape from reality!

 

[notinvain]

If you drink to lower your heart rate, is it sin?

I mean wine, sorry.

 

[visionary]

As been advised in the above posts, some things are better off in the Lord's hands. Conviction regarding the disadvantages of smoking pot while not "letter of the God's Law" detailed as sin in the Word of God, because it is something that has to be spiritually discerned.

Keep these verse in mind when ministering to those under the influence.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

1 Corinthians 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.

What you can tell them is:

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

and pray that the Holy Spirit convicts them of their need to repent.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Greetings JFW,

How about this:

Ezekiel 8:17-18 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

Interesting. What version is this? NAB has the Lord saying "my nose."

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Never been a toker myself, but if it were not illegal would it be a sin to inhale? Would have to say it depends.

As some suggested here, my thought is that like any act, one can only answer “is it a sin” yourself after first examining circumstance and motive. If your motive takes you to a habit as an escape from life, then would have to say it is a sin. As would be anything that you know would result in such irresponsible actions. To me that is meaning behind a call to be sober or sober minded. It is not a call for total abstinence. And these lines or distinctions would not be the same for all.

Again assuming it is legal, for some one to sit in their home and occasionally puff for relaxation or even just enjoyment does not seem like a evil act to me. It may not be healthy, especially in excess, but you could say that about many things we do each day without even blinking an eye. For the same person to do so in front of someone they know has a “drug” problem would clearly make it wrong, Paul addresses this very clearly.

Have never been to a Jewish wedding or wedding feast. Certain in Jesus day they did not have strippers or the public debauchery we sometimes see today. But cannot imagine any wedding running out of wine because the people there were attempting to lower their heart rate! In my experience these are joyous occasions and people get intoxicated. Firmly believe we were also created for joy and allowed to have fun. Such intoxicating moments, IMO can be had, be fun and enjoyed without being a sin.