Is Smoking Marijuana Sinful?

[Rainbow.]

It saddens and perplexes me that Christians would want to use any kind of substitute/enhancement,call it what you will.

Then this should also be applied to wine and other types of alcohol which millions of christian indulge in daily.
Also every person who reads the bible interprets it in their own way, so i find the best think to do is let people make up their own minds without trying to use the bible to justify everything.
Having read some of the effects you say you had while using this plant, i feel your coming from a different angel than a lot of us on here. I have had over 15 yrs on and off with Mj and had all kinds of varieties (I never smoked Hash or any other type of solid resin) I have never been affected in the ways you mentioned. Was you drinking and using other drugs at the time? Or maybe your the kind of person that it doesn't sit well with, like i am with alcohol?
Well, ive read all i can on this thread as i seem to be reading or going over the same points so im off. Im glad your happy with your relationship with God, and wish you all the best.

 

[Human]

Thank you Rainbow - I appreciate your spirit of Agape - the Lord be with you as you spread yourself to other saints.



Oworm



I generally appreciate your spirit and again I know your heart is to do/be good for all other people. I hope that you can grasp that my desire is not promote harm but to promote freedom and peace for human beings. I do not promote mj or food or clothes, I promote truth in Christ. My personal belief is that freedom and peace in truth are most fully found in Jesus Christ – but there is a lot that can be done by simply accepting and supporting all other humans (that is about the definition of agape).



Re: Character

The character issue relates to your statement that I am going through this effort to salve my guilty conscience. I have no problem with your recognizing problems in my reasoning and being kind enough to point them out but to make the foregoing statement, I believe, is a character attack and not worthy of a Christian (though many Christians, because of the remaining flesh, do it all the time). Please be assured that whether I am right or wrong in any regard, my conscience is totally clean before God – I have no more interest than you in not walking honorably before the Lord. Daily I work to submit myself to Him (“work out your salvation with fear and trembling”). I hope this makes sense to you.



Re: Substitute

The idea of mj or psychoactives in any way being a substitute for Jesus is like saying sports or cars or food or teachers or books are a substitute for Jesus. This is a great fallacy in the church and I hope to expose it. Jesus is the foundation in our lives. He is NOT contrary to popular belief intended to be all of our emotional fulfillment (otherwise God never would have made woman – Adam needed more than the perfect presence of God – the Creator made us like that – with a variety of needs – this does not in the least lessen who He is). As you know, your life is greatly enhanced by enjoying different foods, different people, different music – in a word, you like to have different experiences. Mj is simply intended to be one of those experiences – nothing complex about that.



Other than that, I agree re: the ultimate glory – as best as I can tell, humans are made with a certain need which our Father is intended to fulfill. If one tries to fulfill THIS need with mj, food, church, a relationship or anything else, that is a problem. Each of us needs to be on a solid footing in the Lord in order to be on a solid footing with the rest of our experiences in life. Does this make sense?



Agape,

Human

 

[Love&Pain]

I think smoking marijuana is sinful because you will be getting high on a drug instead of getting high on God and turning to him for your problems. Most people who smoke marijuana do for a temporary escape from their problems. If you feel the need to have fun go to a christian concert. having problems pray and talk to god. I don't think marijuana is a good thing and what's not good is a sin.

 

[Rainbow.]

I think smoking marijuana is sinful because you will be getting high on a drug instead of getting high on God and turning to him for your problems. Most people who smoke marijuana do for a temporary escape from their problems. If you feel the need to have fun go to a christian concert. having problems pray and talk to god. I don't think marijuana is a good thing and what's not good is a sin.

Well, i had no problems whatsoever when i used to use this God given plant.To make a sweeping statement like that is a bit naive.
Judging people is a sin, being rude is a sin, being mean is a sin, being ignorant is a sin, being lazy is a sin, being greedy is a sin, being selfish is a sin, playing 'kill em up' computer games is a sin, watching certain kinds of movies is a sin, too much food is a sin, too much wine is a sin. Lust is a sin. I could go on! lol
We are all sinners, who fall short of Gods glory. Thank the Lord for his grace.
Let God be the one to judge us, not each other. God bless x

 

[ElectricStorm]

Yes, it's sinfull no matter how you dice it.

Man oh man oh man... God made this plant yes, but I'm almost positive he didn't make it so that we could get high on it, almost positive. I'm sure he used it as a cure for an illness untill we started turning it around and inventing more drugs. Any drug is sinfull if you take it to get high off of, any plant is sinfull if you use it to get high off of period. We can't sugar coat things like this and say that if God put it there we need to use it, God doesn't want us to sin, God doesn't want us to smoke Marijuana...

To make a sweeping statement like that is a bit naive.

No it isn't, not at all. It's a God made plant, not a God Given plant.

Also, we all sin yes, each and everyone of us. But do we know we are sinning? When we know we're sinning do you think we should keep doing it or stop? If you stole something, being a Christian, and knew it was a sin would you keep doing it? God gives us brains to use for our knowledge, don't take them for granted...

 

[PreacherJoe]

Lots of sins are not adressed directly in the bible and I'm sure there are some more sins we'll figure out to do that aren't in there either. As for smoking pot....I know several people that do and it has changed them for the worse in every aspect of their lives. Smoking of any kind is detrimental to your own health and that of those around you. It is also costly as a habit as well as because of the medical costs incurred. Also marijuanna is mood and behavior altering and not in the same way for all people. My own nephew killed 2 girls when he hit them with his gravel truck and he was charged with DUI because he had smoked pot that day and had small amounts on him as well as a hitter. There were witnesses to the accident and all agreed that these girls ran a stop sign so my nephew was not charged with their deaths but I imagine their families will always wonder if his reaction time would have been any better if he had not been a user. In my opinion Americans are way too over-dependant on escaping into alcohol and drugs and I believe that it is a sin.

 

[one love]

Yes, it's sinfull no matter how you dice it.

Man oh man oh man... God made this plant yes, but I'm almost positive he didn't make it so that we could get high on it, almost positive. I'm sure he used it as a cure for an illness untill we started turning it around and inventing more drugs. Any drug is sinfull if you take it to get high off of, any plant is sinfull if you use it to get high off of period. We can't sugar coat things like this and say that if God put it there we need to use it, God doesn't want us to sin, God doesn't want us to smoke Marijuana...

No it isn't, not at all. It's a God made plant, not a God Given plant.

Also, we all sin yes, each and everyone of us. But do we know we are sinning? When we know we're sinning do you think we should keep doing it or stop? If you stole something, being a Christian, and knew it was a sin would you keep doing it? God gives us brains to use for our knowledge, don't take them for granted...

The only problem with this is that god gives no clear mandate as to whether or not marijuana is sinful. The whole premise of "Marijuana is Sinful" is not based on the word of god, but on one's own individual thought. It is the belief of man, through no religious justification, that marijuana is sinful.

 

[ElectricStorm]

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[Watcher-for-your-soul]

The plant is not sinful. It just sits in dirt until somebody decides to do something with it.

The attitude that it's natural so it must be ok is nothing but a deliberate attempt to justify unnaturally (sucking the smoke from the burning weed into the lungs) using something to alter the mind.

Since advocates like to compare the weed to wine, the apostle Paul made it clear to..."be not drunk with wine"... i.e. 'be not high on pot..." I've known pot smokers all my life, and never have I known one who smoked it for any reason other than to get high.

My most recent encounter with a "Christian for Cannibis" is a brother who served God for 6 years before deciding he could smoke pot, preach Jesus, and start a ministry around smoking pot. It has cost him his job and his wife and three children, yet he is determined it is "of God". He doesn't come down off the junk long enough to have enough sense to realize that he is broke, alone, and isolated. So it goes with those determined to "get high for Jesus".

 

[Sierva_de_Dios]

[updown]Feliz Navidad!![/updown]

 

[one love]

smoking marijuana makes you high which is almost like being drunk, you're out of control and it's adicting.QUOTE]

No, being high is not even close to being drunk, it is far from it: you don't "lose control" while being stoned/high, and it is not physiologically addicting, instead the addiction is created by mind not the body.

 

[ElectricStorm]

It's the same in God's eyes, that's the point I'm getting at. If you kill somebody it's the same thing as lieing in God's eyes.

 

[brandnew845]

A sin is a sin is a sin. There all the same in gods eyes, just because TV and movies make some acceptable doesnt mean there not sins. People think its o.k. to be gay because of TV now, its not. Its still a sin. Thats a different topic though, dont want to steal this one.

 

[Rainbow.]

Ok, im going to say a few things about certain posters rather than individually.

Electricstorm: Your comments are noted, but there just your thoughts.And the point you made about Mj being used aa a medicine until something else was invented holds no weight for me as it's just be made legal over here for medical use, so obviously they haven't yet invented anything that is as good. So if God intended this plant to help ease the suffering of people then it's not sinful as far as im concerned!

Watcher-for-your-soul
Fair point but an extreme case me feels.I hope God helps this man, and lead him on the right path.

PreacherJoe. That's a terrible thing to have happened, but it doesn't go with people using the plant in a resposible way.Thousands are killed yearly by a legal thing called alcohol and many families lives are totally ruined by that.

 

[Rainbow.]

A sin is a sin is a sin. There all the same in gods eyes, just because TV and movies make some acceptable doesnt mean there not sins. People think its o.k. to be gay because of TV now, its not. Its still a sin. Thats a different topic though, dont want to steal this one.

 

[ElectricStorm]

Electricstorm: Your comments are noted, but there just your thoughts.And the point you made about Mj being used aa a medicine until something else was invented holds no weight for me as it's just be made legal over here for medical use, so obviously they haven't yet invented anything that is as good. So if God intended this plant to help ease the suffering of people then it's not sinful as far as im concerned!

Yeah, they're my thoughts, and I do agree with what you said about them just being my thoughts, we each walk our own walk, we each walk our own walk differently, I'm not the judgemental type and I'm not going to force you into a way that you don't feel like being in. I just think it's a drug, and any drug taken addictivly to get high off of is a sin.

 

[Rainbow.]

Is being drunk a sin? Yes, smoking marijuana makes you high which is almost like being drunk, you're out of control and it's adicting. Given the circumstances they do both the same thing to you.

I'm trying not to play with words because there's nothing worse then people that do that, but this is how I feel on the issue. If you start saying that it's okay then you're really just trying to sugar coat things. Just like when she stated God made the plant for us, he didn't make it for us to get high off of...

She is the cats mother! If your going to quote someone do it with a bit of respect please.Have you ever smoked Mj, because it seems to me you have no idea about what your saying. Ive never lost control once on Mj and it wasn't addictive to me so stop using sweeping statements. However, if you say some people loose control, then that's fair enough. I myself have never seen this so i can't comment on it. I loose control on a glass of wine so i don't drink it, but im fairly sure a glass of wine isn't a sin.

 

[ElectricStorm]

I'm really sorry about that, I'll edit that out. I beleive I got two and two mixed up in that post and was thinking of another...

 

[Human]

Puzzled - what is wrong with being "high"?

Regardless, that is not why I have used in the past. Nor is that how I would describe the effect.

Likewise, I have never used it as an escape nor do I know anybody who does (Government propaganda).

I do go to God with my problems - that has nothing to do with using or not using mj. I already addressed the fallacy that mj is some kind of substitute - please review my earlier posts. I note that just because a man needs a women that does not make them a substitute for God - but we still need them - trust me (it is not good for man to dwell alone)!

Electric - I appreciate your recognition that these are just your personal opinions - though you specfically stated "it is the same in God's eyes" in Post 152. I addressed a fellow earlier who was presumpteous enough to speak to us mortals directly from the throneroom. I repeat that it is wise to be careful when we tread on that ground...

Agape,
Human

 

[Rainbow.]

I'm really sorry about that, I'll edit that out. I beleive I got two and two mixed up in that post and was thinking of another...

OK. Im confused now, but never mind lol
God bless x