I have heard some people try to say that slavery is immoral. Let's hear what you all have to say.
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Is slavery morally wrong?
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JillLars
It's a Boy! Jace David- Due 1/20/07
I believe slavery to be immoral, because it operates on the idea that there is a hierarchy of humanity. Many people thought that Africans were not quite human, that they were inferior to whites, in fact, they even thought you could measure intelligence by measuring their skulls and then saying the difference reflected a decrease in intelligence. To treat others in that manner is immoral, IMHO.
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lol..."try to say it is"? like you totally don't think so ??? I think it is incredibly obvious how wrong it is....taking ownership of another human being. They aren't yours to take.
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lunachick
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Yes, I think slavery is morally wrong and extremely inhumane.
Unfortunately, many western economies today are propped up by continuing slavery. It's almost as though unabated consumerism/capitalism demands it. Our appetite for cheap toys and fashion overrides our sense of humanity, as does our greed for greater profits uber alles.
Slavery is as alive today as it ever was, and I hate it.
Unfortunately, many western economies today are propped up by continuing slavery. It's almost as though unabated consumerism/capitalism demands it. Our appetite for cheap toys and fashion overrides our sense of humanity, as does our greed for greater profits uber alles.
Slavery is as alive today as it ever was, and I hate it.
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Freodin
Devout believer in a theologically different God
Teh Wiccan said:
It is not necessarily immoral, if you had a way to show that someone IS a lesser being.
But slavery does not treat people as "lesser beings" - it treats them as objects. It denies their humanity - and that is immoral.
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JillLars said:
I wasn't talking about treating people poorly. I agree that treating people without love is immoral.
God never condemns slavery. In fact, God instructs slaves and masters how to act. This implies that slavery is not necessarily immoral.
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lunachick said:
I am not going to debate you on this... although, you are misled. Start a thread on it, and I will gladly jump on.
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How did/does god instruct slaves and masters to act? Daily memos to slaves and their owners? E-mail? A perfectly-written and scientifically-accurate book written in all the languages of the earth and available to all to read and learn, and without bloody murders and torture?Aaron11 said:
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I am sorry that I did not mention this at the beginning of the thread, but I am talking about whether God consider's slavery OK. I am going by His standards and I am only interested in looking at it from a Christian perspective on this thread. Anyway, here you go...
Matthew 10:24 "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master"
-Jesus Christ
Ephesians 6:5-9 "5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; 6 not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. 7 With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free. 9 And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him."
-Paul to the Ephesian church
There is a mentioning of slavery, and an instruction for slaves and masters. Anything else?
Matthew 10:24 "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master"
-Jesus Christ
Ephesians 6:5-9 "5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; 6 not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. 7 With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free. 9 And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him."
-Paul to the Ephesian church
There is a mentioning of slavery, and an instruction for slaves and masters. Anything else?
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What about the koran? Why is the bible written by god, but everyother religious text is wrong?Aaron11 said:
Proof would be nice.
We should know that something is definitely written by a deity before believing it all to be true.
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lunachick
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Aaron11 said:
Why not? It's relevant. Slavery exists today. It is excused by big business, and supported by mass and frivolous consumerism.
Take The Walt Disney Company for example. Are you trying to tell me that this is moral because your God sanctioned it somehow?
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I agree with Lunachick here. Slavery still very much exists today, but just because the chains are not visible no one seems to mind.
Frankly prison is the same as slavery and most people seem to think prison is a dandy idea.
Frankly prison is the same as slavery and most people seem to think prison is a dandy idea.
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lunachick
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Yep, sweatshop labour and child labour all do this, I would imagine. Fear and trembling everywhere, I would say. Can't say it leads to salvation, though - only despair.Aaron11 said:
And then it becomes contradictory - not like he's talking about slavery at all, but that he is talking about good labour relations. Treat ytour employees well, and they will serve you well.
But like most of the bible, it is open to interpretation to suit whatever spin you need.
Slavery is wrong. Immoral. Hateful. Inhumane. Greed-based. Evil.
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Well guys, my mistake. I started this thread on the wrong portion of this site obviously. I wish to discuss this issue with people who are believers in Christ. The reason that I wish to discuss this with them, is because otherwise we will not get past the issue of "what is morality?" and who controls it. Without our agreement on the existence of God or the lack of, we will never get to the issue with a common worldview. I would be interested in talking to people about why I believe that the Koran is wrong, or other issues that were brought up, on a different thread. Start one if you wish.
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Good point basically every thread outside of the Christians Only forums degenerates into a debate on "What is morality?" or "Creation vs. Evolution."
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