Is Sexual Relations Only Purpose Procreation?

[bliz]

You speak righteously. This is the point I have been making all along and is certainly not contradicted in the Song of Solomon as far as I can see. Intimate union can only be pure and good in the context of marriage where procreation is the objective. This indeed warrants an intense spiritual pleasure, but this is not the same as a couple united in Holy Matrimony ogling and leering at one another and debasings God's design.

Hmmmmmm... At what point, then, should my husband and I stop having sexual relations, since the possibility of procreation is rapidly slipping away?

 

[HuntingMan]

Hmmmmmm... At what point, then, should my husband and I stop having sexual relations, since the possibility of procreation is rapidly slipping away?

Seems by the gospel according the Matthewe that anyone who cant have children for whatever reason might be going against Gods will by having sex even though they are married and are told NOT to deprive one another so that each may not be tempted by satan...to which Paul makes no claim whatsoever that we arent to deprive each other of the 'possibility of procreation', the intent is clearly because of fulfilling sexual desire.

 

[MATTHEWE]

Hmmmmmm... At what point, then, should my husband and I stop having sexual relations, since the possibility of procreation is rapidly slipping away?

It is certainly not for me to comment on what you choose to get up to in the privacy of your own home. Only God is privvy to what you do behind closed doors.

God Bless

 

[bliz]

Seems by the gospel according the Matthewe that anyone who cant have children for whatever reason might be going against Gods will by having sex even though they are married and are told NOT to deprive one another so that each may not be tempted by satan....

So, the next time my husband initiates sex, do you suggest that I deny him? Indeed, deny us both any sexual relations for the rest of our lives?

 

[bliz]

It is certainly not for me to comment on what you choose to get up to in the privacy of your own home. Only God is privvy to what you do behind closed doors.

Oh? Then why do you make statements such as...

Intimate union can only be pure and good in the context of marriage where procreation is the objective.

You are clearly saying what you believe all of us should do and not do behind closed doors and that we should only have sexual relations when we are trying to conceive a child.

 

[MATTHEWE]

Oh? Then why do you make statements such as...



You are clearly saying what you believe all of us should do and not do behind closed doors and that we should only have sexual relations when we are trying to conceive a child.

I'm sorry you seem to have misunderstood my intention. I will not pass personal judgement on an individual as it is not my place to do so. In the second quote you draw attention to, I am merely expressing my belief and interpretation of the Bible without passing personal judgement on specific individuals. I do stand by my convictions however.

God Bless

 

[HuntingMan]

So, the next time my husband initiates sex, do you suggest that I deny him? Indeed, deny us both any sexual relations for the rest of our lives?

I think you missed the obvious sarcasm in my post

I said 'gospel according to Matthewe..not Matthew.

 

[HuntingMan]

I do stand by my convictions however.

God Bless

False prophets stand by their convictions as well. That is pretty much meaningless unless scripture actaully states what you claim. It does not.

 

[MATTHEWE]

False prophets stand by their convictions as well. That is pretty much meaningless unless scripture actaully states what you claim. It does not.

That is your interpretation.

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

I'm sorry you seem to have misunderstood my intention. I will not pass personal judgement on an individual as it is not my place to do so. In the second quote you draw attention to, I am merely expressing my belief and interpretation of the Bible without passing personal judgement on specific individuals. I do stand by my convictions however.

God Bless

Sorry Dude but your statement is a judgement.

Kenith

 

[charityagape]

Peace be with you, Mister Emu. You speak righteously. This is the point I have been making all along and is certainly not contradicted in the Song of Solomon as far as I can see. Intimate union can only be pure and good in the context of marriage where procreation is the objective. This indeed warrants an intense spiritual pleasure, but this is not the same as a couple united in Holy Matrimony ogling and leering at one another and debasings God's design.

God Bless

What if you can't have children, or if you're passed the age of having children, no more sex? Since thats no longer the objective.

Also, Ogling and Leering? Should I keep my eyes closed and pray for it to be quick?

 

[AutumnDreamer]

Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

If sex was only meant for procreation, then Paul would have mentioned depriving each other during pregnancy.

 

[bliz]

I think you missed the obvious sarcasm in my post

I said 'gospel according to Matthewe..not Matthew.

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I caught that but assumed it was a typo.... sorry! My bad!

 

[Nanee5]

I am in no doubt that the sole purpose of sexual relations is procreation. This is what God intended.

Genesis
1Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, "Yea, hath God said, `Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"

2And the woman said unto the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden,

3but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, `Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it,lest ye die.'"

I don't believe God was referring to literal death here, but rather to a kind of spiritual and moral death

4And the serpent said unto the woman, "Ye shall not surely die;

5for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

Meaning, she will no longer interpret the world in innocence and naivety as God intended, but will be unable to look upon a naked form (in this case Adam's) without her mind rapidly descending into the gutter

6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate.

7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves things to gird about.

Obviously, they must have noticed they were naked before, but placed no significance upon it. However, having eaten of the Forbidden Fruit, they now looked upon one another and were no longer confronted with the impression of naked innocence, but rather something of a shamefully salacious and distasteful significance. No doubt Adam would have been shocked to find himself standing to before Eve's wanton display, and with dreadful embarrasment, quickly rushed to cover themselves up. It was at this precise point, that the possibility of sexual relations for any purpose other than procreation came into being, as a direct consequence of Eve not doing as she was told.

God was clearly so angry about this, he banished them from the Garden of Eden and placed a burden upon them evermore.

So, it is clear to me, that if we are to earn the approval of our Lord, we must aspire to be like Adam and Eve before the Serpent tempted them toward sin. Enjoying intimate union for its own sake draws a very clear parallel with Eve's original sin, and if it couldn't be tolerated then, it certainly shouldn't be tolerated now.

Number 1, the sin was not just Eve's, but also Adam's. They both had to do it, not just her. And 2, the sin they committed was DISOBEDIENCE, not of being naked. It says their eyes were opened to what was good and evil. Not that being naked was evil, but they became aware of the vulnerability of being naked, and obviously, didn't want to be. Not because they lusted after each other, but because they just knew it wasn't right. Not only did they not notice before they disobeyed, but do you notice that she also was not surprised to have a snake TALKING to her???

You can't just take certain passages in scripture, but you must take the Bible as a whole. There are plenty of other passages in the Word that show that sexual relationship between married people is pure, and not only for procreation, but also to make the 2 become 1, in more ways than one.

 

[tulc]

This indeed warrants an intense spiritual pleasure, but this is not the same as a couple united in Holy Matrimony ogling and leering at one another and debasings God's design

Hey now! My wife is well worth my ogling and leering at her!
tulc(thinks Mrs.tulc is a very sexy woman!)

 

[GregorytheGood]

I believe this question is similar to the following one:
"Is eating food solely for nourishment, or also for enjoyment?"
If it is enjoyable, it is also for enjoyment. However, natural purpose is of course part of the equation. ....too much food, not good. Unwholesome food; also not good.
Same with sex. What is too much or unwholesome? that is a personal question for each to ask him/herself.
Love, Gregory

 

[invisible trousers]

Since it's a multiple-choice poll, I voted for all the options.

 

[Ave Maria]

No, definitely not. God also designed sexual intercourse to be something to be pleasurable as well.

 

[Sam Gamgee]

It's way too fun to be just for procreation

obligatory link: http://www.christiangay.com/he_loves/sex.htm

 

[GregorytheGood]

condemning gay people is not from God, but it is a traditional norm.

Mark 7:6-7

He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' (NIV)

Love, Gregory​