Is sex wrong?

KCDAD · May 1, 2006

How many times does marriage, wedding or derivitives of those words appear in The Bible? What words are translated as "marry, marriage and or wedding"? What else do these words mean? How else are they used?

Thank you.

What is the word translated as "divorce" in NT? What does it mean? How else is it used?

Lesson ended.

Flatscan82 · May 1, 2006

KCDAD said:
How many times does marriage, wedding or derivitives of those words appear in The Bible? What words are translated as "marry, marriage and or wedding"? What else do these words mean? How else are they used?

Thank you.

What is the word translated as "divorce" in NT? What does it mean? How else is it used?

Lesson ended.

you know, i don't know but i am sure it is there a lot

mark53 · May 2, 2006

WolfBitnGodSmittn said:
marriage isnt a ceremony

marriage isnt a piece of paper

When Isaac first saw his wife he took her to his tent and made love to her

For them marriage was more than sex... though sex sees to have been a very happy part of their lives...
quote]

What would we now call Isaac when he took a woman, made love to her and said that THIS was marriage???

Flatscan82 · May 2, 2006

Hosea 1:2

The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms:

now how does that work out?

non-religious · May 5, 2006

Is sex wrong?

Depends who is doing it....

Sex whether in marriage or not, with one partner or five, in public or private, with fantasies, fetishes or just ordinary, with foreplay or no foreplay, with games or scenarios, with people watching or not etc...

As long as those involved are consenting adults sex can and invariably is a very beautiful and right thing to do. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever, in my opinion. But what rocks my boat will not necessarily be your cup of tea

year2027 · May 8, 2006

God first
Beloved All

God loves you all my dear friends

After this tread went up I took time to think about how I feel about sex and God

I do believe sex was made by God to make babies

But do I believe the act of sex is wrong?

No but it can be if you are thinking more about having sex than God you are putting sex above God.

But God understands we will do this from time to time because we are flesh but is it a sin it depends how and why your doing it I would think.

Should I stop doing it I believe its ok to do but we need to make sure we are not putting it above God.

Now is it right to try to stop the natural way the body works with drugs or etc to take away the natural way the body makes children

So I still rethinking it but I believe sex can be a sin but sins can be forgiven and if its a sin it a sin God understands

but this is just me

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

DrFate · May 23, 2006

As I recall int the OT the penalty for an unmarried woman having sex was death. That is a pretty clear way of showing society that something is considered wrong.

HeyJupiter · Jun 4, 2006

I think a 2nd edition of the bible needs to be written, lol

micknick · Jun 12, 2006

Belinda said:
I think a 2nd edition of the bible needs to be written, lol

God is immortal and unchanging. If something was wrong in the OT it is still wrong today. God does not change his mind about what constitutes sin.

Christianity is laying ourselves at God's command. We should submit to Him in everything. Through Jesus He has given us an opportunity to have eternal life and happiness, and yet "Christians" who supposedly believe this will still try to change the parts of the Bible that they dislike. Some elements of following Jesus will always be a struggle, I no I have serious trouble obeying the sexual regulations laid down by God, but they are a small price to pay for the comfort He grants me daily and any strife I go through pales into insignificance next to the paradise I will be granted by grace when I die.

KCDAD · Jun 14, 2006

micknick said:
God is immortal and unchanging. If something was wrong in the OT it is still wrong today. God does not change his mind about what constitutes sin. God doesn't change. Remember that. The Bible does and has changed many times. Look at what The Bible was when 2Timothy was written, or when Jesus or Isaiah spoke of The Word of God... What was The Bible when Jesus said not one word of The Law or Prophets would be altered until the last days... How about the endless debates about what should be put into the Canon? Did God decide what was finally put in or did The Roman Catholic Church?
Christianity is laying ourselves at God's command. We should submit to Him in everything. You have just described Islam.Through Jesus He has given us an opportunity to have eternal life and happiness, and yet "Christians" who supposedly believe this will still try to change the parts of the Bible that they dislike. It isn't about liking or disliking... it is about scholarship and critical thinking.Some elements of following Jesus will always be a struggle, I no I have serious trouble obeying the sexual regulations laid down by God, but they are a small price to pay for the comfort He grants me daily and any strife I go through pales into insignificance next to the paradise I will be granted by grace when I die.

As I have said before, I wish I could just say " I believe what is written just as it is written, as if God himself spoke it." However, when I became a man I gave up my childish ways and quit trying to nourish myself on just milk.

TScott · Jun 14, 2006

micknick said:
God is immortal and unchanging. If something was wrong in the OT it is still wrong today. God does not change his mind about what constitutes sin.

You sell your God short. Inability to change is a terrible weakness.

micknick · Jun 14, 2006

God is perfect. He always has been. Ability to change is only useful when you can be put in a situation where you need to change- why would an all knowing, all powerful God need to change? And anyway, just because He doesn't change does not mean He lacks the ability to. He demonstrates countless times through the Bible that He is faithful to His Word. This includes His law of what is right and wrong.

KCDAD · Jun 14, 2006

micknick said:
God is perfect. He always has been. Ability to change is only useful when you can be put in a situation where you need to change- why would an all knowing, all powerful God need to change? And anyway, just because He doesn't change does not mean He lacks the ability to. He demonstrates countless times through the Bible that He is faithful to His Word. This includes His law of what is right and wrong.

Yeah, like eating pork and rabbit... and menstruating women being "unclean" ... and leprosy being contagious... and no one being allowed to enter the Holy of Holies and be in the presence of God... and ... and ... and

micknick · Jun 14, 2006

KCDad- Believe what you may about the compilation of the New Testament, but the manuscripts of Hebrew scripture are still around for translation today. From the time when they were written they have remained unchanged. Copies were burned if one mistake was found so copies made millenia apart are practically identical. The Books of Law always condemned sex before marriage/ outside marriage.

I did not describe Islam. While Christianity undoubtedly shares some similarities with Islam there are vast differences. If you want to second guess your Maker and Judge on what is right and wrong, do so at your peril. Critical thinking is a bit out of place when your criticising the Word of God. Compared to God our intelligence is as nothing. If He has declared something wrong, it is without question wrong; He defines right and wrong- who are you to argue?

Caylin · Jun 14, 2006

"Turn off your brains for jesus."

KCDAD · Jun 14, 2006

micknick said:
If you want to second guess your Maker and Judge on what is right and wrong, do so at your peril. Critical thinking is a bit out of place when your criticising the Word of God. Compared to God our intelligence is as nothing. If He has declared something wrong, it is without question wrong; He defines right and wrong- who are you to argue?

I appreciate your zeal... however you are confusing a compilation of writings with the Pe pe, Dabar, or Ruach, or the Logos of God. Parts of The Bible may express the word of God but it is not The Word of God.

If you want to believe the world is flat and the Sun revolves the Earth it is okay with me. Just don't expect any sane theology to come out of it. God did not write the Levitical laws... not even the Jews believe that. Only fundamentalist Christians believe that. If you think God's finger wrote the Ten Commandments, well... what can I say? How big is God's finger, what color is it and does he bite his nails?

micknick · Jun 14, 2006

where does it say in the Bible that the Earth is flat, or that the sun revolves around it? The Jews, like Christians, accept the Torah as scripture. It was not penned by Gods hand (as the Ten Commandments were) but Genesis through Deuteronomy is accepted by Jews and Christians as the inspired Word of God. So much so that Jewish boys had to learn it off by heart by age 12.

And I don't say turn off your brain. I say that it is futile to try and mentally outdo your creator, and that you can't "think your way round" His commandments in order to avoid obeying them. There are plenty of other uses you can put your brain to.

KCDAD · Jun 14, 2006

micknick said:
where does it say in the Bible that the Earth is flat, Heaven is up and hell is down... Jesus ascended into heaven and descended into hell....or that the sun revolves around it? The Sun stopped in the sky....The Jews, like Christians, accept the Torah as scripture. As scripture, written by man. That's what all the commentaries about the Torah are about (The Talmud for example) It was not penned by Gods hand (as the Ten Commandments were huh?) but Genesis through Deuteronomy is accepted by Jews and Christians as the inspired Word of God. Inspired (not dictated) word about God... So much so that Jewish boys had to learn it off by heart by age 12.

And I don't say turn off your brain. I say that it is futile to try and mentally outdo your creator, and that you can't "think your way round" His commandments in order to avoid obeying them. There are plenty of other uses you can put your brain to.

So much Catholic Church garbage is in our language...
Word of God is "Logos" it means ultimate essence or meaning... not "word"... Jesus is The Logos, not The Bible. The Bible is words... some Hebrew some Aramaic, some Greek, some translated into or from other languages... words... not God. God doesn't use words... man uses words. Man is the only creature that creates and uses words to our knowledge... God speaks in visions and emotions and dreams... never words. Prophets speak God's word... but they are using their own words revealing what God has shown them in their dreams and visions... REMEMBER JOSEPH and DANIEL?????

micknick · Jun 14, 2006

when i say the inspired i mean it was inspired by God so that it says exactly what He wants it to. and God does use words- he often spoke to people in words, through angels.

the ten commandments were delivered to Moses on top of mount sinai on two stone tablets, direct from God. hence they were penned by God, not man.

mark53 · Jun 17, 2006

micknick said:
KCDad- Believe what you may about the compilation of the New Testament, but the manuscripts of Hebrew scripture are still around for translation today. From the time when they were written they have remained unchanged. Copies were burned if one mistake was found so copies made millenia apart are practically identical. The Books of Law always condemned sex before marriage/ outside marriage.

He defines right and wrong- who are you to argue?

Why, then, is there some major differences in some areas between the Leningrad Codex 1000 AD (which is what we base our OT on) and the Dead Sea Scrolls which has 2 extra Psalms and an intro bit to 1 Sam 11 which seems to have been missed somewhere between these 2 times? (The NRSV has this in theirs!!) There are also a number of smaller bits and pieces that have been lost since the 1st century as well.
There is a book available from bookshops which gives all the O T writings and highlights the differences from the Leningrad one.
There are also many small variances that are highlighted in the standard Hebrew texts. Buy one, learn the languages(s) and see for yourself!

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