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<blockquote data-quote="TreWalker" data-source="post: 74189671" data-attributes="member: 421161"><p>As a musician myself I have often wondered too. Our Messiah found me steeped in the music of the world. One of my memories when I first gave my heart to him was that every single song on the radio (yes secular) was praising him. It was a great sensation. And it freaked me out, in a good way. It was the beginning of learning how God was with me from the beginning and how he reaches us in our own place. He does not call us out to say 'find me here'. He comes in to where you are and says 'hey, hi'. And you go oh my! He's here even though i'm ...me.... a sinner. And then he leads you to your truth, a holy child of God. Shows you how you can be seen as clean and whole to God. Through love. I've found that it's never in condemnation, always in a loving fathers heart that he draws us. </p><p></p><p>Secular music and devil's pulpit to me refer to divisions and oppositions. I prefer to see the reconciliation between divisions than focus on that which divides us out. The OP begs the question of opposition. Meaning it assumes the truth is that religious music is NOT the devil's pulpit. Such naive divisions ignore that even the law was used by the devil against the very people it was given. </p><p></p><p>Can the devil use secular music as a pulpit, I believe so. Can the devil use religious music as a pulpit, why not? Just because it fits our label doesn't make it true. We are to discern all things by the Spirit that is given us, so as to prevent this type of deception. The deception of thinking oneself better than another, even 'in Christ'. But what happens when an entire community is lead astray? Secular or religious. Then we have an ever ensuing identity crisis that pits 'us against them'. And that is the very thing that God teaches against. He has brought unity through Yeshua not divisions. All of us are being reconcile to God through him. He divides the hearts so that we can be unified. He does not unify so that we become divided. </p><p></p><p>So what if non-believers are being used by the devil to preach his divisions? Is not He who is in you greater than he who is in the world? Are we who are in Messiah not over comers through the Spirit given us? Are we not supposed to lead the lost to the light of Messiah? So what if the devil is using a non-believers heart? Prove to them that God can use a believers heart! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Show them the real thing and the devils pulpit will dissolve beneath their feet. I know, that's what happened with me. I saw the real thing and He turned the devils pulpit into his own. Using the words from his pulpit even! All the narcissistic me me me love songs were now all singing about my love for Him! He has used the very MO of the devil against itself. The devil thought it was cool how he could use the very Torah of God to deceive the very children of God it was given to. Well, now I got to see how our Messiah used the very 'pulpit' as you see it against the devil. The devil could not stop God from using his songs to praise His holy name!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TreWalker, post: 74189671, member: 421161"] As a musician myself I have often wondered too. Our Messiah found me steeped in the music of the world. One of my memories when I first gave my heart to him was that every single song on the radio (yes secular) was praising him. It was a great sensation. And it freaked me out, in a good way. It was the beginning of learning how God was with me from the beginning and how he reaches us in our own place. He does not call us out to say 'find me here'. He comes in to where you are and says 'hey, hi'. And you go oh my! He's here even though i'm ...me.... a sinner. And then he leads you to your truth, a holy child of God. Shows you how you can be seen as clean and whole to God. Through love. I've found that it's never in condemnation, always in a loving fathers heart that he draws us. Secular music and devil's pulpit to me refer to divisions and oppositions. I prefer to see the reconciliation between divisions than focus on that which divides us out. The OP begs the question of opposition. Meaning it assumes the truth is that religious music is NOT the devil's pulpit. Such naive divisions ignore that even the law was used by the devil against the very people it was given. Can the devil use secular music as a pulpit, I believe so. Can the devil use religious music as a pulpit, why not? Just because it fits our label doesn't make it true. We are to discern all things by the Spirit that is given us, so as to prevent this type of deception. The deception of thinking oneself better than another, even 'in Christ'. But what happens when an entire community is lead astray? Secular or religious. Then we have an ever ensuing identity crisis that pits 'us against them'. And that is the very thing that God teaches against. He has brought unity through Yeshua not divisions. All of us are being reconcile to God through him. He divides the hearts so that we can be unified. He does not unify so that we become divided. So what if non-believers are being used by the devil to preach his divisions? Is not He who is in you greater than he who is in the world? Are we who are in Messiah not over comers through the Spirit given us? Are we not supposed to lead the lost to the light of Messiah? So what if the devil is using a non-believers heart? Prove to them that God can use a believers heart! :) Show them the real thing and the devils pulpit will dissolve beneath their feet. I know, that's what happened with me. I saw the real thing and He turned the devils pulpit into his own. Using the words from his pulpit even! All the narcissistic me me me love songs were now all singing about my love for Him! He has used the very MO of the devil against itself. The devil thought it was cool how he could use the very Torah of God to deceive the very children of God it was given to. Well, now I got to see how our Messiah used the very 'pulpit' as you see it against the devil. The devil could not stop God from using his songs to praise His holy name! [/QUOTE]
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