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I pray God that we all shall prove to be saints in the great and terrifying day of the Lord when the souls of men shall be judged.
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We are all saints. Im St. Souldier. That doesnt mean anyone should glorify me because i am nothing. We are supposed strive for a united mindset. Thats hard to do when we put some obove others. Also, its for that reason (and others) that we dont pray to saints. The scriptures also say not to call any man father or teacher, and not to be called that either, because we are all brethren and only Christ is the teacher. This agrees with pauls exhortation not to glory in men
I pray God that we all shall prove to be saints in the great and terrifying day of the Lord when the souls of men shall be judged.
Mary's bodily assumption into heaven is biblical; first she is seen in Heaven in The Apocalypse of saint John the Theologian chapters eleven and twelve;
It is interpretation, without doubt, but it is what the one holy Catholic and apostolic church teaches and I believe it. Others may interpret matters differently according to different criteria and for the service of a different theology.
They did put it in the canons of the first council of Nicea and in the subsequent Oecumenical councils.
The canons of the first council of Nicea describe the decisions of the council; the rules they wrote for the church to follow. These canons are not the same thing as the canon of holy scripture.
In Lk 1:28 the archangel hails her as, "full of grace". Most versions today do not use that rendering, but greatly weaken it. Yet it is the correct translation as we can see from the Magisterium (Pius XII, Fulgens Corona, AAS 45, 579, and constant use of the Church) and also from philology.
Same thing is said about Stephen - and nobody imagines an "immaculate conception" for Stephen because like Mary - nothing of the kind is mentioned for him and it is too big a thing to simply "make up" without actual Bible support for it.
in Christ,
Bob
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He's correct, though, that that's the particular verse which gets tortured in order to provide the semblance of an argument for this doctrine from scripture.
As I recall, the "full of grace" is actually what was translated from the Latin, not the Greek.
The Greek is κεχαριτωμενη and the Latin is gratia plena and in English both are translated as "full of grace".
Actually full of grace in Greek is plaras karitos iirc
Google translate is good for modern Greek but not so hot for Koine Greek.
Sorry, I didn't use Google translate. Used the ol' bean for it.
As I recall, the "full of grace" is actually what was translated from the Latin, not the Greek.
Iirc kexaritomena is translated highly favored one but the Latin says ave gratia plena[bless and do not curse]which mean hail full of grace...
Mary as having been conceived without Original Sin.
In simple terms, what does that mean exactly? What is Original sin and why didnt mary have it? Was she supposed to be sinless, or is it something else?
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