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no, science is certainly not the only way of knowing something. But when it comes to the difficult questions, the ones where you can't tell "just by looking" - or your first impression may turn out to be mistaken - science is one of the best means of finding out the truth.
??If science is not required to casually use the word "know" over irrelevances, but it is basically the only way to establish any truth of any significance, surely the honest answer in the first place was "yes"?
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What is someone's confidence in? Who said to you that science is reliable to establish any truth at all ?
Or that anything from man's ways is "significant" for the LIFE YAHWEH GIVES ?
Okay, Resha. Thank you very much. It seems - and this is rather a surprise to me on CF - that what we have here is two well-meaning people who may actually agree with each other.
I think, actually, that this isn't quibbling, but rather an important distinction.
Put it like this: wouldn't there be two very different meanings if you said "I know that I am wearing a red T-shirt" and "I am testing to see if I am wearing a red T-shirt"?
I've certainly encountered that in the past as well. But I'm still none the wiser as to why you asked this question. Why do you want to know what people will say?
I think that sounds very sensible. That's more or less what I'd say as well.
So, to answer your question: no, science is certainly not the only way of knowing something. But when it comes to the difficult questions, the ones where you can't tell "just by looking" - or your first impression may turn out to be mistaken - science is one of the best means of finding out the truth. Others might be mathematics and logic, which are related to science.
Science cannot even explore most of what we need to know.
But with respect to your add-on about "hard" questions, I think there are hard questions science can't answer - many of them involving how we humans relate to one another.
Do you know how to find out if the ingredients you use are harmful ? (you can do the test yourself)I know how to make a sandwich, that’s fairly handy.
COOL! (post 11).
Where in Scripture is this noted?
haha.... touche'.....Genesis 1:1 - Revelation 22:21
I agree that science cannot know as Scripture Reveals - I was hoping you already knew some of the context, specific chapters, that clearly show this.
First, whether something is irrelevant or not, we can still say that we know it. Second, while something like "I know that it is raining because I am standing outside in the rain" may be a simple exercise in thought and not require the use of the scientific method, that does not mean it is an irrelevancy. Indeed, I would say that knowing whether it is raining or not, as well as many other simple-to-observe facts are of great importance. And thirdly, I did not say that science is basically the only way to establish any truth of any significance, I said it was one of the best ways, two others being maths and logic.If science is not required to casually use the word "know" over irrelevances, but it is basically the only way to establish any truth of any significance, surely the honest answer in the first place was "yes"?
The huge number of non-Christians who (according to the OP) postulate that "science is the only way of knowing" seem to have left the house.
Well, to be fair, I have seen atheists on this forum, whose views I respect very much, who might say that science is the only real way to know anything. I suspect that any difference in views is based more on semantics, and is in reality much less than it seems.The huge number of non-Christians who (according to the OP) postulate that "science is the only way of knowing" seem to have left the house.
I’ve always been confused by this. What knowledge has God revealed that is not simply rules to abide by to not go to Hell or things that have been shown to be false (like the Earth being 6000 years old)?Yahweh revealed to His people what is true,
Are you not familiar with the large and important chunk of history which shows how science has revolutionised our understanding of the world, revealing truths which religion did nothing at to even hint at for thousands of years?What is someone's confidence in? Who said to you that science is reliable to establish any truth at all ?
Can you give me an example of something you know about the natural world because of Jesus.God's Word is the best and most powerful and most accurate correct way of "knowing" anything. (per the Title question)
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