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Is schooling that important 2 U??

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At 25, I still can't bring myself around to want to go to school. I never liked school, not even in elementary. The committment of having to attend class at certain times on certain days, to sit at a desk and read/listen/write... ugh. I am good at all three, but I just can't bring myself around to doing it. Maybe trade school would be better for me? But still, I wouldn't know which path to take there either.

I currently enjoy my job very much, I love my co-workers, I find significance in the job itself, I get to drive all over the Bay Area and even to Sacramento or sometimes L.A. It's all an experience that I am greatly appreciating at this stage of my life, as I realize that this job is the experience of a lifetime. Most importantly, I try to glorify God as I go, and I minister to people as opportunities arise. I am respected & well-liked amongst almost all my co-workers, which provides great opportunities to "let my light shine."

So here I sit, for now. If & when it's time to hit the books, or get into vocational school, I will know it. For now, I make the most of what I've got. And thank you Jesus.


i live in sac, what do you do if i may ask?

anyway, i see why education is important. but right now, building a life for myself isn't exactly what i want. because i don't even know what i want in life. i feel really lost. it was over the summer that i found religion and since then everything i thought i knew, liked, or wanted changed drastically. i'm still really confused, so i'm joining the army to figure it out. doing the exact opposite of what my lazy subconscious wants seems to be what makes me happiest. so constant workouts, the pride of being a soldier, forced social interaction, and a big scary unknown challenge is what i think will make me a real woman haha. if that makes any sense. i dunno. everyone though i'd be a doctor and here i am, a US army recruit. it's bizarro world lol.
 
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I hated school, not because of the lessons or any of the taught stuff, but because I was bullied, and it had a great impact on my motivation. I could probably have gotten all As if it hadn't been so bad.

I'm now a working musician and I'm glad to be doing something I love.
 
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YES, I enjoyed every day of my school career. Admittedly it was made easier by the fact that I generally excell academically and culturally.

But I did struggle socially, and in that sense school helped me to become more sure of myself (obviously school does the opposite for some people...). I was lucky, I attended one of the best schools with great teachers. Very few South Africans have access to good education :sigh:

The most important thing I've discovered about education is not the academic part though, it's the part about being able to see things a bit deeper than they appear, the other side of a story, the ability to think before having one's thoughts influenced. If your high school education does not attempt to teach you that (obviously many students choose not to learn that) it is a patent failure.

I look at the older generations of my country, I see the state of our workforce, thousands who were denied the right to education - and then I have no doubt as to the value of a good education.
 
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Here's an excerpt from a sermon by Frederick Buechner which has helped motivated me. It's from his collection 'Secrets in the Dark: A Life in Sermons' and it's entitled The Calling of Voices:

"Like "duty," "law," and "religion," the word "vocation" has a dull ring to it, but in terms of what it means, it is really not dull at all. Vocare, "to call," of course, and our vocation is our calling. It is the work that we are called to in this world, the thing that we are summoned to spend our lives doing. We can speak of ourselves as choosing our vocations, but perhaps it is at least as accurate to speak of our vocations choosing us, of a call's being given and lives our hearing, or not hearing it. And maybe that is the place to start: the business of listening and hearing. Our lives are full of all sorts of voices calling us in all sorts of directions. Some of them are voices from inside and some of them are voices from outside. The more alive and alert we are, the more clamorous our lives are. Which do we listen to? What kind of voice do we listen for?

There is a sad and dangerous little game we play when we get to be a certain age. It is a form of solitaire. We get out our class yearbook, look at the pictures of the classmates we knew best, and recall the days when we first knew them in school, all those years ago. We think about all the exciting, crazy, wonderfully characteristic things they used to be interested in and about the kind of dreams we had about what we were going to do when we graduated and about the kind of dreams that maybe we had for some of them. Then we think about what those classmates actually did with their lives, what we are doing with them now ten or twenty years later. I make no claim that the game is always sad or that when it seems to be sad our judgment is always right, but once or twice when I have played it myself, sadness has been a large part of what I have felt. Because in my class, at the school I went to, as in any class at any school, there were students who had a real flair, a real talent, for something. Maybe it was for writing or acting or sports. Maybe it was an interest and a joy in working with people towards some common goal, a sense of responsibility for people who in some way had less than they had or were less. Sometimes it was just their capacity for being so alive that made you more alive to be with them. Yet now, a good many years later, I have the feeling that more than just a few of them are spending their lives at work in which none of these gifts is being used, at work they seem to be working at with neither much pleasure nor any sense of accomplishment. This is the sadness of the game, and the danger of it is that maybe we find that in some measure we are among them or that we are too blind to see that we are.

When you are young, I think, your hearing is in some ways better than it is ever going to be again. You hear better than most people the voices that call to you out of your own life to give yourself to this work or that work. When you are young, before you accumulate responsibilities, you are freer than most people to choose among all the voices and to answer the one that speaks most powerfully to who you are and to what you really want to do with your life. But the danger is that there are so many voices and they all in their ways sound so promising. The danger is that you will not listen to the voice that speaks to you through the seagull mounting the gray wind, say, or the vision i nthe temple, that you do not listen to the voice inside you or to the voice that speaks from outside but specifically to you out of the specific events of your life, but that instead you listen to the great blaring, boring, banal voice of our mass culture, which threatens to deafen us all by blasting forth that the only thing that really matters about your work is how much it will get you in the way of salary and status, and that if it is gladness you are after, you can save that for weekends.

The world is full of people who seem to have listened to the wrong voice and are now engaged in a life's work in which they find no pleasure or purpose and who run the risk of suddenly realizing someday that they have spent the only years that they are ever going to get in this world doing something that could not matter less to themselves or anyone else. This does not mean, of course, people who are doing work that from the outside looks unglamorous and humdru, because obviously such work as that may be a crucial form of service and deeply creative. But it means people who are doing work that seems simply irrelevent not only to the great human needs and issues of our time but also to their own need to grow and develop as humans.

.... In a world where there is so much drudgery, so much grief, so much emptiness and fear and pain, our gladness in our work is as much needed as we ourselves need to be glad. If we keep our eyes and ears open, our hearts open, we will find the place surely. The phone will ring and we will jump not so much out of our skin as into our skin. If we keep our lives open, the right place will find us."


So I know it's a long read, and education does not necessarly mean your dream job, but the harsh reality I've been confronted with (even at my young age), as someone who dropped out at age 16 and has been just a through and through f^(k up, is that college not only opens hundreds of doors previously closed to you, but I think that being grouped with people of a similiar age and situation allows you to dream more fully about what you want to do.

It's easy to settle. We all know this to be true. For those of us who haven't had many options or known something different it is easier for us to stick with what we know, to not try our hardest and risk failing for something we've never had. It's just you're going to have a hell of a hard time finding someone's who's settled happy with their position in life. Someone posted here "If you're happy working fast food, and there are people who are" and I have to seriously question his or her sanity. No one is happy working fast food or any retail/restaurant job, even down to the managment. That is as true of a fact you'll ever find.

So that's why education has suddenly become important to me. I'm sick of settling for sh!t and just getting by. I want to do something that motivates and excites me -- and who knows what the hell that is, but I'm going to at least try to find out -- and I think the only way I'll be able to discover what that is, and to land a job in whatever field/area, is through getting an education.

Anyways... my bad for going on and on. This is just something I've been thinking about for awhile.
 
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Education is extremely important to me. God gave us minds to utilize, think, learn, create etc. I will be starting on my 3rd degree at the age of 24 and I 120% LOVE school!

There are many benefits to school including financial, career wise, physiologically (if you know anything about neural pathways) etc.

I think about the opportunities my children will have because I have chosen to educate myself. I think about the ministry we will be able to support because of our financial well-being. I think about the memories we will be able to create as we travel and discover other countries.

That being said, you do NOT have to have a college education to have the above. For myself and my family, this is what is best for us and what I feel I (as a woman of God) have been called to.

My father (due to sever dyslexia) only attended school through the 8th grade; HOWEVER, he was the most amazing, passionate, supportive, man/husband/father. He made enough money to provide our family with more than we could ever want or need and allow my mom to be a SAHM. He passed away from cancer in August.

It is more important to do what you are called to/love rather than what society or anyone else deems is right for you!
 
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I took a different route after high school and joined the Marine Corps. I think this experience alone is better then any college education could ever give a person.

It seems as if employers are looking for something different every couple of months. One month they want someone with an education and then the next they want someone with lots of experience, some months they want both. The Marine Corps or the military in general can give you both and because much is demanded from you such as leadership and the ability to think on your feet it can honestly prepare you so much better then any college can, at least I think so.

My view on college is that it’s the government’s vicious cycle of keeping the economy going. Go to college for four years, rack up a crazy student loan or loans and then have to work the rest of your life to pay them off and then make something of yourself. I went to Penn State after my four in the Corps and I hated every minute of it. I eventually dropped out after a semester and a half, I couldn’t justify paying an institution good money to keep me stressed out 90% of the week. I sit in class and then you give me work to do at home. Ridiculous!

I took a breather from college and decided to prove myself to the rest of the world and to myself that I could do better without college and I did. By the time I was 23 I was making 6 figures. The military played a major role in getting the job also. Then it hit me that money isn’t everything. It sure helps out in keeping and living a comfortable life style but eventually you realize it just isn’t worth it.

To top it all off, I’ve decided to quit my job here in April and go back to college but this time for a different reason. I am going back to a Christian University to get some formal bible training to see if God will open up a door for me to do full time missions work. I won’t have to pay a dime for the education because the G.I. bill I got from my time in the military is paying a 100% plus a monthly stipend for living expenses.

So is schooling that important to me? No, but it’s important to the others who employ you. Schooling means that you have given up time in your life to further your education, balance a hectic schedule, and do what is required of you. The main reason college graduates get the better paying jobs and better responsibilities. They have a piece of paper that proves to the employer that they were able to overcome the hurdles that were demanded of them in order for them to get that piece of paper. I think if college isn’t working for you I would look into a military career. Just my opinion though.

 
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Yes Education Is Very Important To Me, However I Do Think You Should Make It Fun. Take A Course Or Two That You May Not Need But You Think Would Be Fun To Do. That Way There Will Be Something In Your Schooling Career That You Can Look Back Upon And Think Wow That Was Fun Or I Had Such A Great Time Doing That. To Me Its Just Like Work Why Go To A Job Every Day That You Hate And Dred Going To? Just To Be Miserable All Day And Come Home Tired And Cranky....is It Really Worth It? I View School The Same Way.
 
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This is how I view education and the tools (abilities) that I have been given. I am not the smartest/sharpest guy but I know that God has definitely given me abilities (like everyone else). Therefore, it is my responsibility to use them to the best of my ability in all areas of my life. One of those areas was and will be education. So while you are in school, make the most of it (as long as it doesn't consume you). Life isn't all about money, that is correct. But other than living for the Lord, life isn't about anything is it? I hope that helps.
 
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As I tell my middle school students... a college education isn't about getting more money, being in higher social class, or hapiness. It's about having more options in life. It won't guarantee the highest paying job, or even the most enjoyable job. But it will give you the chance to pick and choose what you do, rather than having to settle for whatever is left over.

In high school, the better grades you get, the more options you have for which school to attend after graduation. The better you do in college (or even simply the fact that you FINISH something) the more competative you will be in the "real world."

That being said, there are always exceptions to the rule. There are people who have had successful careers without a college education. But you'll find that, on average, they had to fight much harder to get to where they're at.
 
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