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Is Rev. Wright right or wrong?

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Is Rev. Wright right or wrong?

All nations of the earth come in twos. One is human and the other is demonic. Here is HOW THAT HAPPENED!

Matthew 13:24. Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25. But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28. He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29. But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 12:43. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

As we can see from this “tares” (devils) are parasitic spirits dwelling in and on the bodies of human beings. Thus there is a visible USA of God’s children as well as an invisible USA composed of devils who mislead men.

Now the question is “Is Rev. Wright right about God damning the USA, or is he wrong”? Does God punish nations for doing evil in His sight? Did He punish ancient Israel for rebelling against Him? The snippet on “Youtube” left readers in a quandary!

Isaiah 14:12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 15. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 21. Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. 22. For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord.

Below are some ancient nations that God damned

Ezekiel 32:18. Son of man, wail for the multitude of Egypt, and cast them down, even her, and the daughters of the famous nations, unto the nether parts of the earth, with them that go down into the pit. 19. Whom dost thou pass in beauty? go down, and be thou laid with the uncircumcised. 20. They shall fall in the midst of them that are slain by the sword: she is delivered to the sword: draw her and all her multitudes. 21. The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword. 22. Asshur is there and all her company: his graves are about him: all of them slain, fallen by the sword: 23. Whose graves are set in the sides of the pit, and her company is round about her grave: all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which caused terror in the land of the living. 24. There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living; yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit. 25. They have set her a bed in the midst of the slain with all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword: though their terror was caused in the land of the living, yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit: he is put in the midst of them that be slain. 26. There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living. 27. And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.

The KEY to Rev. Wright’s charge is in Isaiah 14:12:21-22. It is those INVISIBLE nations, the “tares” that are bundled on US citizens who are damned, not the wheat (human citizens) of the USA. Those ancient nations in the Ezekiel text also had human citizens, but Father REDEEMED them all from death and the angels drew them to the barn of Heaven, Hosea 13:14, Ecclesiastes 12:7. As for Lucifer’s demonic children, all of them were cast from the bodies of the “good seed” when they died and the angels carried them to the barn of Heaven.

I have news for all of you who object to Rev. Wright’s words. God has damned the entire planet earth and all nations on it! The USA, Russia, China, India, Australia, Israel and all the remaining nations on earth’s surface will not escape the fire even if you despise Rev. Wright for his statement. Read the following and tell me what nation on earth can escape damnation!

Isaiah 24:4. The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish. 5. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. 6. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. 19. The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22. And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

2 Peter 3:10. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12. Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Now answer the question! Is Rev. Wright right, or is he wrong? If you despise this man what flaws are you showing God about yourself? “Judge not and you shall not be judged”! Matthew 7:1.



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I have nothing against the man, but he is an adherent of Black Liberation Theology, which I regard as a pernicious heresy, combining as it does elements of Marxism and Nation of Islam ideology, and mixing them with Christian theology... and those foreign elements are incompatible.

OTOH, I have nothing but the highest regard for N.T. Wright (aka Tom Wright), the Anglican Bishop of Durham.
 
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Then the USA and all nations on the planet Earth are "damned". The Earth will disappear from orbit when God destroys it, Psalm 37:10. My post is very narrow and limited to Wright' s statement, "... God damn the USA" and nothing more! I think Rev. Wright is trying to sell a new book which he will release in a few months. It is written, "The love of money is the root of all evil". Men will say and do almost anything for money including to assassinate others for hire. "Hireling" Christian preachers will preach for money even though it is contrary to the instructions of Jesus Christ to his disciples! Black churches do not teach the other garbage statements Wright made that inflame the hearers. Wright was speaking for himself and not "the Black church" that he used as a false facade. As for "liberation theology" here it is:

Isaiah 46:4. And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you. 5. To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?

Isaiah 51:12. I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die, and of the son of man which shall be made as grass; 13. And forgettest the Lord thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor? 14. The captive exile hasteneth that he may be loosed, and that he should not die in the pit, nor that his bread should fail. 15. But I am the Lord thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The Lord of hosts is his name. 16. And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.

Isaiah 49:6. And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. 7. Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee. 8. Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages; 9. That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.

Luke 4:17. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, 18. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19. To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

The "liberator" for all mankind including blacks is named Jesus Christ, not any black preacher you can name past or present!

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The nations that bring damnation against themselves bring evil upon all that live there, saint or sinner. Yet the judgements are individually handed out where no person, nation, preacher, teacher pastor or anyone can stand instead of you alone. The judgement doesn't consider your nation so damnation from it can't touch you there.
 
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Forgive the man but don't excuse his behavior.
Thanks,
TT

You can always agree to disagree!
But still, he shouldn't had done what
He did and that really puts
Obama in a bad light.
 
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