Is Playing Violent Shooting Games a Sin?

[xAtheistx]

well any form of immoral act that is viewed (unrealistically)
numbs you to the real effects and consequences of real shooting

Prepares is a better word than "numbs" ... in the military, they go through training and preparation, not anesthesia.

Actually FPS games can provide a certain level of intellectual stimulation.

It requires timing and mental reflexes to be able to shoot and scoot without getting hit. Judging distance, physics, resource management, hand-eye coordination, all of these can be taught by an FPS and all are required skills if your going to be good.

Don't even try... it's point and click, man.

I've never played one before

Missing out.

 

[The Seeker]

Don't even try... it's point and click, man.

While some people exagerate the positive aspects of gaming out of all proportion, "point and click" isn't exactly true.

If you feel you need proof, consider which is harder:
Clicking on this full stop . or;
Shooting a moving opponent half way across the map with a sniper rifle on Halo.

Though Farenheit is better than any FPS out on the market anyway

 

[marblehead]

I think the point is, you should enjoy killing... even if it's just pretend.

I agree.

 

[Helo]

Don't even try... it's point and click, man.

Which takes a varying degree of hand-eye skill. You need to be able to judge distances to see if your weapon will hit what you aim at. You need to be able to have resource management skills to avoid running out of ammunition in a fire-fight.

 

[Ioinc]

is it sinful to play shooter games like counter-strike?

Yes!

Everyone should know that strategy games are what you should be doing.

Starcraft!

 

[savvy]

Look people. It's just a game. Killing characters doesn't mean anything...it is NOT REAL. I love the games where I get to run over pedestrians or commit random acts of violence. It is funny. Would I ever do these things in real life? Hell no. Rational people would not. Only unstable people get any violent ideas from video games.

 

[xAtheistx]

You need to be able to have resource management skills to avoid running out of ammunition in a fire-fight.

In most FPS, you get more than enough ammunition...
If you're referring to reloading, that's just another button. So excuse me, point, click, reload.

And for the record, I am wearing this shirt as I type this:

Guns don't kill people. Kids who play video games kill people.

 

[Ampoliros]

you would say that.....

you're a girl.

I'll say that too, and I'm not female .

You're certainly using parts of your brain playing FPS's, but I'd have to say its nothing special. To simplify things a bit, it is certainly no trouble for me to drive a car for 3 hours (not much physical activity, but hand/eye, physics, etc) but very difficult to play one (or several) games of chess for the same length of time.

 

[Helo]

In most FPS, you get more than enough ammunition...
If you're referring to reloading, that's just another button. So excuse me, point, click, reload.

And for the record, I am wearing this shirt as I type this:

Guns don't kill people. Kids who play video games kill people.

Spoken like someone who doesnt play games.

So you condeming videogames is like a life-long vegetarian giving thier opinion on a rack of lamb.

 

[Moros]

And for the record, I am wearing this shirt as I type this:
Guns don't kill people. Kids who play video games kill people.

And if you believe that, we also hear that Bill Gates is switching to Linux and making all M$ code Open Source.
- From the link

Self defeating.

 

[xAtheistx]

Spoken like someone who doesnt play games.

So you condeming videogames is like a life-long vegetarian giving thier opinion on a rack of lamb.

Looks like I'm good at throwing my voice...
I'm not condemning anything. If you see in my profile...

I play video games. In fact, that's what I'm going to go do as soon as I finish responding to all the topics I want to see... I like to debate, and play video games... not much else. But you're BSing yourself if you think they "can provide a certain level of intellectual stimulation"

And the shirt is hilarious because... it's intended to be. If you don't get that, visit this url.

For the record, I'm also vegetarian (though I wasn't always), and I know nothing about how a lamb tastes.

 

[Helo]

But you're BSing yourself if you think they "can provide a certain level of intellectual stimulation"

Can you prove it?

 

[Psalmangel]

Look people. It's just a game. Killing characters doesn't mean anything...it is NOT REAL. I love the games where I get to run over pedestrians or commit random acts of violence. It is funny. Would I ever do these things in real life? Hell no. Rational people would not. Only unstable people get any violent ideas from video games.

It is these games that get people unstabled. Some poeple get inlfuenced by these games and end up doing what they learned, in these video games, is right. But that only works on those weak in faith and weak-minded.

 

[xAtheistx]

Can you prove it?

It's ridiculous to try to prove something in the negative (that it does not take skill)... we went over this.

I can certainly try though, by giving you an example of the types of people who play FPS.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7153152098207965240

(turn your sound on and up; no worries, there's no screaming banshee at the end... except maybe a kid)

 

[Jetgirl]

is it sinful to play shooter games like counter-strike?

Only Quake 4.

(...goes back to playing Quake 4....)

 

[Abbadon]

It's ridiculous to try to prove something in the negative (that it does not take skill)... we went over this.

I can certainly try though, by giving you an example of the types of people who play FPS.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7153152098207965240

(turn your sound on and up; no worries, there's no screaming banshee at the end... except maybe a kid)

That's a fair example of little brats that play video games. It's the mother's damn fault. She let the kid have a mountain dew before she was going to bed, and didn't say "NO." or assert her bloody authority in any way.

That kid is going to have a hard time growing up, and probably won't. He'll probably get a good job, and I'll be the person working off his pension.

I hate the bourgeoisie.

 

[Dragons87]

Everything can be sinful - if you spend too much time on it, letting it override your relationship with God.

 

[Jetgirl]

I can certainly try though, by giving you an example of the types of people who play FPS.

Awfully big brush you're painting gamers with there.

 

[Caylin]

It is these games that get people unstabled. Some poeple get inlfuenced by these games and end up doing what they learned, in these video games, is right. But that only works on those weak in faith and weak-minded.

I don't have any faith, but I've never killed anyone and I play *alot* of video games.

 

[Abbadon]

It is these games that get people unstabled. Some poeple get inlfuenced by these games and end up doing what they learned, in these video games, is right. But that only works on those weak in faith and weak-minded.

You don't play video games, do you?

The incidents you hear about on the news? The ones that "prove" that video games cause people to kill people? Those are exceptions to the factual generalization that video games don't cause people to kill people.

Back in the dark ages, people didn't have video games. They had the Bible, and not much else.

Were they better off? No, actually they were more violent than we are, especially since it takes more to put an axe through someone's head, someone that you probably traded some bushels for some pigs with yesterday, than it does to pull a trigger. And many of the games out there focus on killing things that are either
A) approvable for movies that we Christians watch without a problem, such as Nazis (Wolfenstien)
B) not real, like zombies (Doom), robots (Quake 4), and monsters

Grand theft auto, might, just might, be stronger evidence for your arguement. But the kind of behavior that game supposedly encourages has been around before the game.

Video games were developed less than 60 years ago, and didn't come into the public for half that time, and didn't become popular or as violent as they are now until the 90s. People have been killing each other good long while before that.

You arguement is bullocks.