Is or can abortions constitute selfishness in some cases?

[ananda]

I believe that there is an alternative to abortions. I understand your point of view but I believe instead of terminating her pregnancy, there are and should be options such as adoptions and counseling, even as far as what happened to her.

And what if they don't care to carry the fruit of a rape for 9 months, or for counseling?

I just find the idea of terminating a pregnancy rather scary as I was writing about what if it were me. When it comes to this hot button issue, it is hard to be objective. Sadly there are few options for women in any case, especially for women who are poor. I just have to see things from a fair and more "conservative" point of view.

Why must you see things from a conservative point of view?

Even if I personally disagreed with abortion (e.g. because of my religious or philosophical views), I cannot force my views on the personal-level, onto others on the government-level.

 

[thesopranopiano]

thank you for adding two examples.

May you clarify?
Infections in Pregnancy: Septic Shock

in stories I have read, there is no indication as to how the mrs. developed her condition. I know bacteria is main reason, but how would there be a change if an abortion had been conducted if the bacteria could have been from utencils used?

there are gaps in the story.

I would question the methods used to determine the child's condition and time between that situation to end result.
Infections in Pregnancy: Septic Shock

now for any given situation, an error would first need to be present before action may take action. we can not heal a person who is already healthy. we do not take out apendixes or kidneys until it is necessary. doctors do not kill their patients at first sign of difficulty.

so in provoded 3 examples are situations where it appears to be improbable to guess or know when a condition may develope. There seems to also be measures to help prevent these conditions that may not require abortions.

Further study would be required to know all forms of responses however.

I'm not a doctor, so I can't say exactly how an abortion would have saved Savita. Reading about the inquest of her case, doctors could not legally terminate when she requested it, because there was no risk to her health at the time, but her condition worsened the next day, making abortion legally permissible. An expert witness claims that by then termination would have made no difference, but if it was done one or two days earlier, she could have survived. Some links:
Savita Halappanavar inquest told abortion might have prevented death - BBC News
Boylan evidence brings further clarity to events in death of Savita Halappanavar
Early termination could have saved Savita - expert

 

[randomvim]

I'm not a doctor, so I can't say exactly how an abortion would have saved Savita. Reading about the inquest of her case, doctors could not legally terminate when she requested it, because there was no risk to her health at the time, but her condition worsened the next day, making abortion legally permissible. An expert witness claims that by then termination would have made no difference, but if it was done one or two days earlier, she could have survived. Some links:
Savita Halappanavar inquest told abortion might have prevented death - BBC News
Boylan evidence brings further clarity to events in death of Savita Halappanavar
Early termination could have saved Savita - expert

Thank you for the links ill read in to them.

There is much to consider from where or how the woman would have consieved the illness.

 

[randomvim]

And what if they don't care to carry the fruit of a rape for 9 months, or for counseling?


Why must you see things from a conservative point of view?

Even if I personally disagreed with abortion (e.g. because of my religious or philosophical views), I cannot force my views on the personal-level, onto others on the government-level.

Some people dont like to get the help they need. Continuing self abuse or allowing others to abuse them. We try our best with interventions and other means.

If we lived in a society that acknowledge life within the womb, some of these issues would be minimal or non-existant. More so if abortion was illegal and women lived in a community that supported their pregnancy rather treat it like a curse.

Then many can heal.

 

[ananda]

Some people dont like to get the help they need. Continuing self abuse or allowing others to abuse them. We try our best with interventions and other means.

If we lived in a society that acknowledge life within the womb, some of these issues would be minimal or non-existant. More so if abortion was illegal and women lived in a community that supported their pregnancy rather treat it like a curse.

Then many can heal.

IMO many issues in society is already caused by parents who give birth to wanted and uncared for children.