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Is Mohammad a prophet..why and why not?

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The same 'test' can be applied to Muhammed.

In fact what you've done is you've posited Judaism as a test for truth!
 
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markie said:
He didnn't say there wouldn't be anymore real ones though. Even after the new Testament was wriitten,, i'm not necesarily talking about mohammed but there are modern day prophets.

Really? Did Jesus forget to tell us something?
 
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Montalban said:
Really? Did Jesus forget to tell us something?
I agree with Markie on this. As Jesus ascended into glory, the Holy Spirit descended to lead us into all truth. This would includes the gift of prophecy,perhaps not on an individual level, but at least upon certain members of Christ's body.
The Christian community has been doubly blessed by both Jesus as God Incarnate, and the Spirit who dwells within asin the days when God's presence never left his Ark of the Covenant.
 
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It is true that the Holy Spirit is a helper. However, after it came, what new truth was revealed that wasn't revealed then?
 
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Montalban said:
In fact what you've done is you've posited Judaism as a test for truth!
Not at all. Since Christians know perfectly well that Jesus is True, they can plainly see the Jews - for all the Bible knowledge they had - made a mistake. This should caution Christians not to make the same mistake with Muhammad or other claimants to Lordship.

Having clear Biblical prophecies, and hundreds of years to think those prophecies over, does not mean you will recognize your Lord when He comes.
 
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Montalban said:
It is true that the Holy Spirit is a helper. However, after it came, what new truth was revealed that wasn't revealed then?
In the Strong's concordance the definition of a prophet is an inspired speaker, in the NASC it's G4396. prophaytays, from a comp. of G4253 and G5346; a prophet (an interpreter or forth-teller of the divine will):-- prophet(59), Prophet(4), prophet's(1), prophets(80). A person who speaks for God is a prophet. Do you accept this definition or do you want to make one up?. Preachers of the word can be considered prophets. Prophecy is usually not just foretelling the future if it was Nostradamus, Mohammed and maybe Joe Smith would be prophets. Oral Roberts, Jack Van Imp and Kenneth Copleland are prophets.
 
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salam peaple..

mohammad p.b.u.h is a prophet just like jisus ,,both of them are prophets of god..
and the quraan is the words of god ..and it wasn't changed...and i want to say to the one that said that zaid bin thabit wrothe the quraan...
you are really miss understanding..
after the deaf of our prophet lots of the muslims that know the quraan by heart died in the wars so they got scared that all of the ones that knows the quraan die and no one stay to teach the quraan to the next generations ...so they gave the task to zaid bin thabit to collect the quraan on papers because he knew it very very well and they trusted him ..and collected it with the help of the other muslims that new quraan..
and it has bee kept untill now...


and believe me peaple you are mintioned in the quraan..(the peaple that thinks like you do) and believe me you shod really start to search about the truth...

and aswer

how can it be a man - made ???????????????????????????????????????????????????http://www.christianforums.com/
 
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and believe me peaple you are mintioned in the quraan..(the peaple that thinks like you do) and believe me you shod really start to search about the truth...

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how can it be a man - made
First off: Welcome to CF!
and believe me peaple you are mintioned in the quraan
You have people who honestly search the scriptures and try and live according to them are mentioned? What about us?
and believe me you shod really start to search about the truth...

and aswer
Found it! There...that wasn't as hard as you thought it was going to be was it?
how can it be a man - made(followed by no less then 51 ?)bold added
How can what be man made?
tulc(hope you have fun here!)
 
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Bevlina said:
You're the fastest mover I know on the forums Dukey!!

No, I will never believe mohammed was a prophet of the Almighty God. God is Love, and mohammed spread fear, and blood.
salam...

can i ask you ..what do you know about mohammad p.b.u.h to say that he spread fear and blood???????
 
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Bevlina said:
You're the fastest mover I know on the forums Dukey!!

No, I will never believe mohammed was a prophet of the Almighty God. God is Love, and mohammed spread fear, and blood.
While I don't agree that Mohammed was a prophet, and I find many of the current trends in modern Islam regressive, it should also be pointed out that Mohammed and the Islamic movement that he founded did much to restore some semblance of order to many portions of the former empire that was crumbling into anarchy long before he arrived on the scene. The rapid spread of the Islamic conquest may demonstrate to Moslems that they had a mandate from God, but for others not so inclined to take this interpretation, what the conquest mainly demonstrates is the essential weakness and absence of any effective authority in the lands that Islam eventually came to dominate.

When the option is anarchy and disorder, people usually would prefer to choose even a very repressive order rather than continue to exist under such conditions. And even if from the perspective of most Christians and secularists, Mohammed's prophetic vision was not from God, the many eclectic sources of his vision had the effect of blending many elements from a wide variety of cultural sources, be they Persian, Christian , Jew or Greek, into a functional social order.

While many modern Moslems today have a tendency to romanticize the first Islamic dynasties into a golden age which they clearly were not, at the time, the empire that Mohammed began restored some of the order and glory to the lands of the fallen Roman empire. Even if the autocratic, absolutist rule of the caliphs was subject to the corruption of a system without proper checks and balances, in comparison to what went before, the early Islamic civilisation was a marked improvement.
 
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solomon said:
While I don't agree that Mohammed was a prophet
lets go in little bit of details, what is the reason for you not acknowledge my Prophet as Prophet? go on list your reason if you are truely interested in debate...I would request to keep it short because you can always keep adding later while we debate each point one at a time that way I don't have to read and response on a 3 pages long....
 
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tulc said:
Well you asked solomon, but I'll answer for myself: don't see a need for anyone after Jesus. Was that short enough?
tulc(keeping it short)
np, you are most welcome to participate...

You don't feel any need for anyone after jesus (AS) - But are you capable of controlling GOD's Will?

Has any one informed GOD by saying thank you GOD we don't need any more messengers to guide us after Jesus (AS)?
 
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