Is Lucid Dreaming OK?

[intrepido]

So I have heard about the mental phenomena of Lucid Dreaming, and thought it was interesting, and there is even a site called Lucidipedia.com that teaches you how to do it.

It's basically training your mind to control dreams and you can see and touch things in your dreams, they basically feel real.

What do you guys think, does this fall under the Occult category and therefore I shouldnt practice it?

 

[Bellicus]

I got years of experience with fiddling around with OOBE, Lucid dreaming, meditation, trance etc. And I suggest you avoid all that, it really destroyed my mind.

 

[intrepido]

I got years of experience with fiddling around with OOBE, Lucid dreaming, meditation, trance etc. And I suggest you avoid all that, it really destroyed my mind.

Yeah, see, I have this rule of not experimenting with things that I don't know about. Especially when they resemble astral projection.

But then again, Lucid dreams are just mind phenomena, did they cause any harm to you?

 

[Bellicus]

Astral projection and lucid dreaming is closely related by my experience. In fact: A Lucid dream can cause a astral projection, since you are in a trance (theta brain waves) in both of the situations. To astrally project you will have to be in a sleep paralysis, and to have lucid dreams you have to be in a sleep paralysis.

did they cause any harm to you

Once I woke up and felt that I could not move my body. Not even a toe, a finger or the eyelids. I felt like solid stone. I felt like I was going to panic, I desperate wanted to move, but it was not possible. And I didn't know if I were dreaming or if I were awake, I were trying to focus, but my mind was blurry.

Another time I woke up from a dreams of demons living where I were, lying on the couch and I felt that something evil was in the room. I could not move, my body were like stone, closed in a coffin. Suddenly I felt something grabbed me and started to pull me off the couch. I tried to scream in panic, but all I could do was make a tiny "eee" in the bottom of my throat. Then I woke up on the couch again, and everything were the same, and I felt the same presence of evil in the room, but this time I was able to move and sit up. And I were confused for a long time what was real.

Another time I woke up on the couch and I though a friend had come to visit me, cause a person was standing in the room, but I could not see him clearly, so I tried to sit up in the couch and tried to focus. But when I grabbed the table, my hand went trough it. And I got terrible confused about it. And that is all I remember. I woke up a time after that again.

And I know that in the 2 last cases it was a astral projection because of my experimentation with lucid dreaming techniques. I know because it had no normal signs of a dream, but everything in the room around me were the same, and I had a awaken consciousness, not the type of consciousness that is common for dreams, where absurd things is normal and where nothing is questioned.

And I could tell a lot about what experimentation with astral projection brought me, but I really don't like writing about it. It feels like my mind is changing just when writing this, and I start to feel floating and distanced from reality. Still years after all that I can't connect to reality like I used to. I don't feel like I am sitting inside a room, I don't feel the atmosphere of the room, but more like I am drifting in a endless state of nothingness. Almost like the physical reality really is a curtain, with something else behind it.

 

[FrederickM]

I've tried doing it for 2 years and haven't got it once. Its quite hard and impossible, but I guess from what you guys say its God willing.

 

[Radagast]

So I have heard about the mental phenomena of Lucid Dreaming, and thought it was interesting, and there is even a site called Lucidipedia.com that teaches you how to do it.

Why would you want to? Aren't there better things to focus on?

 

[Elijah2]

So I have heard about the mental phenomena of Lucid Dreaming, and thought it was interesting, and there is even a site called Lucidipedia.com that teaches you how to do it.

It's basically training your mind to control dreams and you can see and touch things in your dreams, they basically feel real.

What do you guys think, does this fall under the Occult category and therefore I shouldnt practice it?

Mate are you really a born-again Christian?

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

 

[BigNorsk]

We all to some degree control our dreams. I wouldn't bother with trying to do Lucid dreaming for the simple reason that it's pretty much a waste of time, why spend your time on something that in the end means nothing?

It's not occultic in itself, but dreams are a common interest among those who are in the occult and think that dreams are more than dreams. As such, I'd again counsel to just don't bother.

It would be much more useful if you worked on your OCD and learning to control yourself when you are conscious. I don't see why spending your time to learn to control your dreams is useful when you can't control yourself when you are awake.

As for the waking up paralyzed by Bellicus, that's a pretty common phenomenon. We are all or almost all paralyzed every night when we dream. Some people wake up and are still paralyzed and they again think it is something supernatural or something. Don't be concerned with what you though you felt or such at the time you were actually still dreaming. Part of your mind was awake and other parts were still asleep. Do the mix differently and you would be sleepwalking.

Marv

 

[e. barrett]

Not to be facetious here, but why would lucid dreaming be an occult practice? Dreams are nothing more than a combination of psychology and biology. I don't see what the problem would be in trying to "control" your dreams.

Now if your intent was to invoke occult powers through your dream, that would be a different story. But the problem would be with your intent, not with the dreaming.

 

[Bellicus]

The way I see it occultism mainly got with things like this, and this is things that is used to enter higher states of consciousness. Just mumbling some phrases about gods and spirits have no effect.

I also want to add a neutral remark where some criticize the idea of lucid dreaming to be harmful to the mind, because dreams most likely have a beneficial effect on the mind, and by changing the way dreams naturally occur, this could have harmful side-effects.

 

[intrepido]

Mate are you really a born-again Christian?

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

Haha, yes

I just find these things interesting every once in a while, and I like to ask before I try something that might harm me.

I'm staying away from Lucid Dreaming. Thats why I asked if it was dangerous.

Charles.

p.s. I know, i gotta focus on Jesus alone.

Be blessed too!

 

[.allie.]

A lot of my dreams are lucid dreams. I was really young when I first discovered it, I was explaining my dreams to my uncle and he exclaimed, "That is called Lucid Dreaming!" I don't dream anything that is out of control, it's just dreams like I'm at the gas station and in my dream I am able to decide what sounds good for a snack, or what kind of gum I want to buy. Since it just happens to be how I dream, I have never thought it was a bad thing?