Is logic logical?

[Penumbra]

Using logic in arguments is not logical, because butterflies are flammable!

disprove me!................ But before you do, remember that trying to prove that logic is logical using logic is a circular argument, because the premise you are using to prove that logic is logical, rests on a forgone, and as of yet, unproven premise.

But I apologize that I used logic above, let me restate my above paragraph in a way that is not a circular argument by interjecting extra words, ad phrases to make it illogical, and thus admissible in this discussion.

disprove me!.......A pints a pound the would around......... But before you do Luke sky-walker, remember fish and chips that trying to prove that logic magic is logical using logic nuclear beavers is a circular pyramid argument and it's out out of the park!, because the premise with fresh sheets every time you go underwater you are using to prove I love you that logic is logical, rests on a forgone, scratch a little to the left and as of butter has a lower smoke point then the Japanese yet, unproven premise. bananas!!!!


let the discussion begin !!!

Your premise itself rests upon logic. You are forming a dichotomy between "logical" and "not logical", which itself is a logical statement: A is not B, and B is not A.

-Lyn

 

[quatona]

Is logic logical?

Is redness red?
Is speed fast?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Using logic in arguments is not logical, because butterflies are flammable!

I need a stiff drink already.

 

[Vssia]

I entirely doubt that you even know what logic is, so let me define it for you. Logical thinking is a clear and ordered way of thinking. So, your question, "Is logic logical?" Translates into, "Is thinking clearly and in an orderly way, thinking in a clear and orderly way?" The same as asking does 2=2.

On to your... argument ,which I hope with all my heart is a joke. Your argument is a logical fallacy. Moths being flammable has nothing to do with an already redundant statement.

 

[DontTreadOnMike]

This thread is stupid. How's that for logic?

 

[solarwave]

It is logical to use logic in arguments because my intuition tells me so.

That is not logic but common sense makes it probable

 

[Gracchus]

There are two kinds of logic. Deductive logic is based on stated assumptions and rules of inference. (e.g. geometry, mathematical analysis, abstract algebra). Inductive logic is based on experience.

Now, if deductive logic leads on to conclusions that are not supported by experience, then we can be sure that the assumptions or the rules of inference are in error. The sythesis of deductive and inductive logic, the "scientific method" has been very productive in the real world.

No one has ever found the rules of inference to be in error. Assumptions have often been found to be in error. (e.g. Euclid's fifth postulate)

Deductive logic coupled with inductive logic has been a most useful tool. To pretend that decuctive logic has not been substantiated by experience is to erect a straw man.

 

[variant]

disprove me!................ But before you do, remember that trying to prove that logic is logical using logic is a circular argument, because the premise you are using to prove that logic is logical, rests on a forgone, and as of yet, unproven premise.

Logic is not proved by using logic alone, that would be silly, the utility of logic is proved by success in application in the world around us.